00:05:11 >> I
00:05:12 PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF
00:05:14 AMERICA, AND TO
00:05:16 THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS,
00:05:17 ONE
00:05:19 NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH
00:05:20 LIBERTY
00:05:23 AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
00:05:24 >> PLEASE
00:05:26 REMAIN STANDING WHILE WE
00:05:28 HAVE OUR STATEMENT OF VALUES. SECRETARY.
00:05:29 >> AS
00:05:31 WE GATHER, WE HUMBLY SEEK BLESSINGS UPON
00:05:35 THIS MEETING. MAY WE ACT WITH STRENGTH,
00:05:36 COURAGE AND THE
00:05:37 WILL TO PERFORM OUR OBLIGATION AND DUTIES TO OUR
00:05:38 PEOPLE
00:05:41 WITH JUSTICE TO ALL. LET US SEEK WISDOM
00:05:43 SO WE MAY ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF
00:05:44 OUR
00:05:46 PEOPLE, OUR NEIGHBORS, AND OUR COUNTRY.
00:05:47 ALL
00:05:50 THIS WE ASK SO WE MAYMAY SERVE
00:05:51 COMMUNITY WITH FAIRNESS AND RESPECT, PUTTING THEIR NEEDS
00:05:53 BEFORE ALL.
00:05:54 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:05:55 PLEASE BE SEATED.
00:05:59 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
00:06:00 >> SURE.
00:06:05 COMMISSIONER BHATNAGAR
00:06:08 HAS NOTIFIED US HE IS UNABLE
00:06:11 TOTO AS HAS
00:06:14 COMMISSIONER BIAGINI. COMMISSIONER
00:06:15 CHERUKURU.
00:06:16 >> HERE. >> CHILI'S HUANG. >> HERE.
00:06:19 >> BOUZA. >> HERE. >> CHAIR CRUTCHLOW.
00:06:20 >> HERE. >> VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
00:06:23 >> I WOULD
00:06:26 LIKE
00:06:29 TO MAKE A MOTION TO
00:06:32 EXCUSE NANCY
00:06:35 BIAGINI.
00:06:36 >> SECOND.
00:06:38 >> CHAIR. >> WE NEED TO EXCUSE BOTH
00:06:39 COMMISSIONERS.
00:06:41 >>
00:06:43 OH. AMENDED FOR BHATNAGAR AND BIAGINI ALSO.
00:06:47 >> SECONDED.
00:06:59 >> GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.
00:07:12 COMMISSIONER CHERUKURU, ARE YOU ABLE TO CAST YOUR VOTE THERE?
00:07:14 GREAT. THANK YOU.
00:07:15 AND THE MOTION PASSED. THANK YOU.
00:07:23 >> MOTION PASSES.
00:07:28 ALL RIGHT. SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ
00:07:29 THE PROCEDURE FOR THE MEETING?
00:07:32 >> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
00:07:38 PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE CONDUCTED BY THE CHAIR
00:07:39 IN ACCORDANCE
00:07:41 WITH THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES.
00:07:43 THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION DIRECTS ALL
00:07:44 ACTIVITY DURING THE
00:07:47 HEARINGS. ALL COMMENTS SHALL BE ADDRESSED
00:07:50 TO THE COMMISSION. ANY AGENDA ON THIS
00:07:51 AGENDA, ANY
00:07:52 ITEM OF THIS AGENDA MAY BE CONTINUED
00:07:53 TO A
00:07:55 SUBSEQUENT HEARING. APPLICANTS WILL
00:07:56 BE ALLOTTED
00:08:00 UP TO TEN MINUTES TO PRESENT
00:08:01 AND JUSTIFY PROPOSALS FOLLOWING STAFF PRESENTATION OF THE
00:08:03 ITEM. OTHER
00:08:05 SPEAKERS WILL BE GIVEN UP TO TWO MINUTES.
00:08:09 THE APPLICANT IS ALLOTTED UP TO
00:08:11 FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL OF ALL COMMENTS.
00:08:12 NO
00:08:13 ADDITIONAL COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED UPON
00:08:15 THE
00:08:16 CLOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING. ALTHOUGH THE
00:08:18 COMMISSION
00:08:19 RESERVES THE RIGHT TO DIRECT QUESTIONS TO
00:08:21 ANY SPEAKER ON ANY MATTER.
00:08:24 SPECIAL PROCEDURES OR TIME LIMITS MAY
00:08:27 BE APPLIED TO ANY ITEM
00:08:29 AS PRESCRIBED BY THE CHAIR. APPEAL
00:08:30 OF COMMISSION ACTIONS
00:08:31 MUST BE FILED IN WRITING WITHIN SEVEN CALENDAR DAYS.
00:08:34 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR.
00:08:39 >> ALL RIGHT.
00:08:41 SO THE AGENDA AND STAFF REPORT FOR
00:08:42 EACH ITEM ON THE AGENDA ARE
00:08:44 AVAILABLE IF THE PLANNING DIVISION OFFICE ON THE
00:08:45 FRIDAY
00:08:47 AFTERNOON PRECEDING THE MEETING AND
00:08:48 AVAILABLE ONLINE.
00:08:51 CONTINUEIONS AND EXCEPTIONS,
00:08:52 THIS PART OF THE MEETING AHOUSE FOR
00:08:54 THE APPLICANT, MEMBERS OF
00:08:55 THE PUBLIC OR OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES
00:08:57 TO REQUEST THAT
00:08:59 ITEM BE CONTINUED WITHOUT HEARING,
00:09:00 TWO,
00:09:03 WITHDRAWN, OR THREE TAKEN OUT OF
00:09:04 ORDER. ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS FROM
00:09:06 SUCH APPLICANTS?
00:09:07 NOT THAT WE HAVE APPLICANTS TONIGHT, DO WE?
00:09:09 OKAY.
00:09:12 >> NO, WE
00:09:15 DO NOT HAVE ANY
00:09:18 REQUESTS FOR ANY
00:09:19 CONTINUESES.
00:09:20 >> THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS
00:09:21 SEVEN MEMBERS. WHENEVER THE FULL COMMISSION IS
00:09:23 NOT PRESENT, APPLICANTS HAVE THE OPTION TO CONTINUE THEIR ITEM TO
00:09:24 ANOTHER MEETING.
00:09:28 BUT I THINK THAT'S NOT NEEDED FOR TONIGHT.
00:09:30 OKAY.
00:09:36 CONSENT CALENDAR. THERE
00:09:39 IS ONE ITEM ON THE
00:09:41 CONSENT CALENDAR TODAY. WOULD YOU PLEASE READ
00:09:42 THE PROCEDURE FOR THE
00:09:44 CONSENT CALENDAR?
00:09:45 >> THE PROCEDURE FOR
00:09:46 THE
00:09:48 CONSENT CALENDAR IS AS FOLLOWS.
00:09:49 CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS MAY BE ENACTED,
00:09:52 APPROVED OR ADOPTED BY ONE MOTION
00:09:53 UNLESS REQUESTED TO BE REMOVED BY ANYONE FOR
00:09:54 DISCUSSION OR EXPLANATION.
00:10:01 IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, STAFF,
00:10:03 THE APPLICANT OR MEMBER.
00:10:04 PUBLIC WISHES TO COMMENT ON A CONSENT
00:10:06 CALENDAR ITEM OR WOULD LIKE THE ITEM
00:10:07 TO BE HEARD ON THE REGULAR AGENDA, PLEASE MAKE YOUR
00:10:09 REQUEST NOW.
00:10:12 ITEM LISTED ON THE
00:10:15 CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE ASSOCIATED
00:10:18 FILE NUMBERS CONSTITUTE PUBLIC
00:10:21 HEARING ITEMS AND TODAY WE HAVE
00:10:22 1 A, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
00:10:24 MINUTES OF NOVEMBER
00:10:25 12, 2025, ADDS THE CONSENT CALENDAR
00:10:27 ITEM.
00:10:28 >> OKAY.
00:10:35 ELIZABETH, ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE
00:10:39 PUBLIC
00:10:42 THAT LIKE TO ADDRESS
00:10:43 THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA?
00:10:44 >> WE NEED TO FINISH THE MINUTES FIRST.
00:10:45 >> WE WILL VOTE ON THE CONSENT
00:10:46 CALENDAR, THEN MOVE ON THAT.
00:10:47 >> OKAY.
00:10:48 DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
00:10:49 >> I
00:10:51 MOVE TO ACCEPT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
00:10:53 MEETING MINUTES, NOVEMBER 12th, 2025.
00:10:54 >> RECUSED. I WASN'T IN ATTENDANCE ON
00:10:57 NOVEMBER 12.
00:10:58 >> SECOND.
00:11:03 >> WAS SECONDED BY
00:11:05 COMMISSIONER SALEME.
00:11:06 >> THANK YOU.
00:11:07 MOTION MADE
00:11:09 BY CHAIR CRUTCHLOW, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
00:11:12 SALEME TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
00:11:14 CALENDAR.
00:11:15 >> NO. I THINK THAT WAS THE YEAH,
00:11:16 RIGHT. THE RIGHT? OKAY.
00:11:18 >> GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.
00:11:27 THANK YOU. THE MOST PASSED.
00:11:30 . ALL RIGHT. SO BACK TO ANY
00:11:31 MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WOULD HIKE TO
00:11:32 BRIEFLY ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON ANY
00:11:33 ITEM NOT ON THE AGENDA.
00:11:38 >> WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE THE CHAMBERS NOR ONLINE.
00:11:42 RAISING THEIR HAND TO MAKE A
00:11:45 PRESENTATION.
00:11:51 >> ALL RIGHT. SO ITEM 2.
00:11:58 PUBLIC HEARING RECOMMENDATION ON
00:12:01 A GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO
00:12:02 UPDATE THE HISTORIC RESOURCE INVENTORY
00:12:03 IN AHE PENDICS 8 0I 9 OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
00:12:07 >> GOOD EVENING.
00:12:10 >> STAFF, PLEASE PROCEED WITH
00:12:12 YOUR PRESENTATION.
00:12:13 >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS.
00:12:37 I WILL BE GIVING THE
00:12:40 PRESENTATION, MEHA PATEL.
00:12:43 FOR THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT
00:12:46 TO UPDATE THE HISTORIC RESOURCE
00:12:48 INVENTORY. THE REQUEST IS FOR THE PLANNING
00:12:49 COMMISSION TO
00:12:52 PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION ON A GENERAL
00:12:55 PLAN AMENDMENT TO UPDATE APPENDIX
00:12:57 8. 9, THE HISTORIC RESOURCE INVENTORY, IN
00:12:58 THE GENERAL
00:13:00 PLAN AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY CODE
00:13:04 SECTION 18 BY
00:13:07 142.040.
00:13:09 AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN REQUIRES CITY COUNCIL FOR
00:13:10 FINAL CONSIDERATION.
00:13:19 THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS UPDATE
00:13:22 THE HRI. THAT INCLUDES ADDING
00:13:25 27 PROPERTIES TO THE HRI THAT
00:13:28 WERE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AFTER
00:13:30 THE ADOPTION OF THE GENERAL PLAN IN 2010.
00:13:34 AND IT ALSO INCLUDES UPDATING
00:13:37 EXISTING HRI PROPERTY
00:13:39 INFORMATION WITH ANY CHANGES TO THE
00:13:40 PROPERTY
00:13:43 ADDRESS, THE PROPERTY NUMBER AND
00:13:46 ADDITION OF A MILL CONTRACT OR HISTORIC
00:13:47 PLAQUE.
00:13:48 AS MENTION, AN UPDATE TO THE HRI IS
00:13:49 CONSIDERED
00:13:50 AN AMENDMENT TO THE GENERAL PLAN.
00:13:53 AMENDMENTS TO THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN
00:13:55 REQUIRE CONSIDERATION DURING A PUBLIC
00:13:58 HEARING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION
00:13:59 FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL CONSIDERATION.
00:14:06 THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT TO
00:14:07 UPDATE THE HRI
00:14:10 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FOLLOWING GENERAL PLAN
00:14:13 POLICIES.
00:14:16 POLICY 5.61-P 2 TO PROTECT THE
00:14:18 HISTORIC INTEGRITY OF DESIGNATED HISTORIC PROPERTIES
00:14:19 AND
00:14:20 ENCOURAGE ADAPTIVE REUSE WHEN NECESSARY TO PROMOTE
00:14:22 PRESERVATION.
00:14:25 AND
00:14:28 POLICY 5.6.1-P 10 TO
00:14:31 UPDATE AND MAINTAIN
00:14:36 THE CITY'S LEST OF ARC TECHNICALLY
00:14:37 OR HISTORIC
00:14:39 RESOURCE INVENTORY AND ASSOCIATED STATEMENT
00:14:40 OF PARKS AND RECREATION FORMS AS AN
00:14:41 APPENDIX TO THE GENERAL PLAN.
00:14:46 THE
00:14:49 PUBLIC OUTREACH FOR THIS REQUIRED
00:14:51 SENDING -- OR MAILING REFERRAL LETTERS
00:14:55 TO NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES WERE SENT
00:14:57 ON SEPTEMBER 16, 2026. NO COMMENTS
00:14:58 WERE RECEIVED FROM
00:15:01 THE TRIBES, AND ON DECEMBER
00:15:04 24th, 2025, A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
00:15:05 WAS PUBLISHED IN THE WEEKLY.
00:15:10 THE CEQA
00:15:13 FOR THIS PROJECT
00:15:16 REQUIRED THE PREPARATION AND
00:15:19 CERTIFICATION OF THE
00:15:22 2010-2035 GENERAL PLAN EIR IN WHICH
00:15:23 THE
00:15:25 GENERAL PLAN POLICY 5.61-P 10
00:15:28 TO UPDATE AND MAINTAIN THE HRI WAS
00:15:30 DISCUSSED. SO PURSUANT TO AT CEQA
00:15:31 GUIDELINES, THE
00:15:34 UPDATE TO THE HRI FALLS WITHIN THE
00:15:35 SCOPE OF
00:15:37 THE GENERAL PLAN EIR AND DOES
00:15:39 NOT INVOLVE NEW SIGNIFICANT EFFECTS BEYOND
00:15:40 THOSE
00:15:41 ANALYZED IN THE 2010-2035 GENERAL PLAN.
00:15:43 EIR.
00:15:49 STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROVIDE A
00:15:50 RECOMMENDATION
00:15:52 OF APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO
00:15:54 DETERMINE THAT THE PROJECT FALLS WITHIN
00:15:55 THE SCOPE OF THE GENERAL
00:15:58 PLAN EIR AND ATONIGHT
00:16:01 A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THE CITY
00:16:02 COUNCIL
00:16:03 AMENDMENT, AMEND THE GENERAL PLAN
00:16:05 TO UPDATE THE
00:16:06 HISTORIC RESOURCE INVENTORY LIST IN
00:16:08 APPENDIX 8.9. THANK YOU.
00:16:14 >> ALL RIGHT. SO QUESTIONS?
00:16:17 I WILL ASK A QUESTION FIRST.
00:16:20 WOULD IT BE
00:16:22 POSSIBLE IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE A
00:16:23 QUICK
00:16:24 SUMMARYSUMMARY OF WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS
00:16:26 ARE FOR SOMEBODY TO SAY,
00:16:28 OKAY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY BUILDING OR SUCH
00:16:29 BE CONSIDERED HISTORICAL?
00:16:38 >> I
00:16:40 BELIEVE THEY WOULD NEED TO COMPLETE
00:16:41 A
00:16:44 DPR, WHICH IS A
00:16:46 DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION, WITH
00:16:47 THE STATE.
00:16:50 THEY WOULD NEED TO COMPLETE THAT
00:16:53 SURVEY WITH
00:16:54 A CERTIFIED HISTORIC --HISTORIAN.
00:16:56 WE ALSO
00:16:57 HAVE SOME OTHER APPLICATION CHECKLISTS
00:16:59 AND THEN THEY NEED TO GO
00:17:02 TO HLC FOR
00:17:03 RECOMMENDATION TO ADD THE PROPERTY
00:17:05 ON TO THE HRI AND THEN
00:17:06 IT WOULD GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL.
00:17:08 >> WHAT
00:17:11 ARE SOME OF THE CRITERIA
00:17:14 THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT?
00:17:15 >>
00:17:17 THE CITY
00:17:18 HAS OUR OWN HISTORIC CRITERIA. ALSO, I
00:17:20 BELIEVE, THEY NEED TO MEET
00:17:21 THE STATE'S HISTORIC CRITERIA AS WELL.
00:17:22 THE CRITERIAS ARE IN THE GENERAL PLAN.
00:17:26 FOR THE
00:17:28 CITY.
00:17:29 >> CAN YOU -->> I CAN PULL THEM
00:17:30 UP.
00:17:31 >> I DON'T MEAN
00:17:32 THIS TO BE A QUIZ. VERY SORRY.
00:17:33 >>
00:17:34 YEAH.
00:17:35 >> I KNOW HAS TO BE ONE OF THE
00:17:37 CRITERIA, 50 YEARS OR OLDER IS ONE OF THE
00:17:38 FIRST ONES.
00:17:41 THEN THAT CAN BE --SAY,
00:17:42 WELL, THERE IS SOMETHING OTHER OF NOTE
00:17:44 THAT CAN BE AN EXCEPTION, SO
00:17:46 ON, SO FORTH. I AM NOT LOOKING FOR EVERY
00:17:49 LITTLE NUANCE.
00:17:50 >> THERE IS MORE THAN AGE.
00:17:51 AGE WHAT WE
00:17:52 USE FOR CEQA PURPOSES TO KIND OF --
00:17:53 THAT'S
00:17:55 LIKE THE BIG ONE FOR WHETHER OR NOT YOU
00:17:56 DEMOLISH
00:17:58 A STRUCTURE FOR CEQA PURPOSES. I'LL
00:17:59 LET
00:18:02 MEHA PULL SOMETHING UP FOR YOU. THERE IS LOTS
00:18:04 OF CRITERIA THAT CAN DESIGNATE SOMETHING
00:18:06 AS HISTORIC.
00:18:07 >> SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS
00:18:08 THE CRITERIA
00:18:10 THAT'S USED.
00:18:11 >> I WILL PULL IT UP.
00:18:12 THERE ARE
00:18:13 FOUR ESSENTIAL CRITERIA. ONE, IT HAS
00:18:14 HISTORIC
00:18:16 RELEVANCE BECAUSE OF SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE SOCIETY AND
00:18:17 THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
00:18:20 COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
00:18:22 THE SECOND ONE IS IT HAS HISTORIC
00:18:23 SIGNIFICANCE
00:18:25 BECAUSE IT'S AN ARCHITECTURAL RESOURCE
00:18:29 BY, YOU KNOW, FOR THE ARCHITECTURE
00:18:31 AND/OR BY A FAMOUS ARCHITECT. AND
00:18:32 THIRD
00:18:35 IS ARCHEOLOGICAL. IT IS CONSIDERED
00:18:38 SUB TERRAIN, BUT MUCH MORE SENSITIVE.
00:18:41 THAT'S AN ARCHEOLOGICAL RESOURCE.
00:18:44 LAST IS IT'S
00:18:47 ASSOCIATED WITH A FAME OUR PERSON OR PERSONALITY.
00:18:49 >> IN THE SLIDE DECK THERE WAS AN AREA
00:18:50 WHERE YOU
00:18:51 HAD ABOUT --THERE IS NO NEW SIGNIFICANT
00:18:53 EFFECTS, I THINK?
00:18:56 I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT THAT WORDING
00:18:58 CORRECT. IF YOU COULD JUST --
00:18:59 >> YES.
00:19:00 FOR
00:19:02 THE CEQA, THERE ARE NO SIGNIFICANT
00:19:04 EFFECTS BEYOND THOSE THAT WERE ANALYZED
00:19:05 IN
00:19:07 THE GENERAL PLAN EIR. THAT WAS CERTIFIED IN 2010.
00:19:08 >> WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER SIGNIFICANT EFFECTS?
00:19:11 GIVE US SOME
00:19:14 EXAMPLES.
00:19:15 >> FOR EXAMPLE, NEW CONSTRUCTION,
00:19:17 THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WOULD
00:19:20 IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT BEYOND
00:19:22 WHAT WAS INVOLVED IN THE GENERAL PLAN
00:19:23 EIR.
00:19:25 SO ADDING THE PROPERTIES, NO NEW CONSTRUCTION.
00:19:26 WE ARE JUST ADDING PROPERTIES
00:19:29 THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL TO BE ADD TODAY THE HRI.
00:19:35 SO THERE IS NOTHING
00:19:36 THAT HANGS IN THE EIR OR NO EFFECTS.
00:19:41 >> HOW ABOUT LIKE RE-ZONING ALL
00:19:44 OF A SUDDEN I SEE THERE IS A BUNCH
00:19:45 OF
00:19:46 HISTORICAL STUFF AND THAT AFFECTS THE
00:19:49 ABILITY TO NECESSARILY RE-ZONE. DOES IT HAVE ANY IMPACT IN OUR
00:19:50 ABILITY TO DO THAT?
00:19:56 >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THE
00:19:58 ZONING STAYS THE SAME EVEN IF THEY ARE
00:20:02 ADDED TO
00:20:04 THE HRI. SO WHEN -- IF SOMEONE WANTS
00:20:05 TO ADD, DO AN ADDITION TO THE PROPERTY, ET
00:20:08 CETERA,
00:20:11 THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE
00:20:12 SAME
00:20:14 CEQA PROCESS
00:20:15 OR WHATEVER THE ZONING IS.
00:20:16 >> I'M
00:20:17 TALKING ABOUT THE AREAS AROUND IT AS
00:20:20 WELL, IF THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN INHIBITS --
00:20:21 BECAUSE
00:20:22 THERE IS ALL THESE HISTORICAL THINGS THERE.
00:20:23 NOTHING SIGNIFICANT?
00:20:27 >> NOT -->> NO. SO IN OUR ZONING CODE,
00:20:29 IF YOU'RE WITHIN 200 FEET
00:20:32 OF A STRUCTURE THAT'S ON OUR RESOURCE
00:20:33 AND
00:20:35 INVENTORY, YOU MAY GET REFERRED
00:20:37 TO HLC DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING
00:20:38 TO YOUR STRUCTURE.
00:20:41 SO THAT IS POSSIBLE. BUT THESE
00:20:43 STRUCTURES ARE ALREADY ON THE HRI.
00:20:44 THEY JUST HAVEN'T BEEN
00:20:46 REFLECTED YET IN THE ACTUAL TEXT OF THE
00:20:48 CODE. SO THE DECISION
00:20:49 HAS BEEN MADE TO ADD THEM TO THE LIST.
00:20:51 WE JUST
00:20:53 HAVEN'T ACTUALLY UPDATED THE TEXT.
00:20:54 >>
00:20:56 I GUESS I WILL BRING THIS UP QUICK
00:20:57 HERE. ONE OF
00:20:59 THE THINGS THAT YOU WERE BRINGING UP
00:21:01 IS THERE IS -- WITH A GOODFELLOW PARK IS,
00:21:03 ON THE
00:21:06 CORNER OF LINCOLN AND EL CAMINO,
00:21:09 THERE USED TO BE A
00:21:12 GAS STATION, LITTLE GAS STATION. THAT'S ALMOST --
00:21:14 CLOSE TO 100 YEARS OLD. THAT SHOULD
00:21:15 BE IN
00:21:18 THE
00:21:19 HISTORICAL LANDMARK. AND -- BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY,
00:21:21 YOU KNOW, STANDING
00:21:23 THERE, BUT THEY LET A BODY SHOP GO
00:21:24 IN BACK
00:21:25 OF IT AND IT'S TAKING OVER PART OF
00:21:27 THAT.
00:21:29 BUT THAT'S THE ONLY OLD-FASHIONED GAS STATION WE
00:21:30 HAD RIGHT ON
00:21:32 THE EL CAMINO SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PART OF A --
00:21:35 ACTUALLY, IT COULD BE PART OF HAS THE
00:21:36 LITTLE PARK,
00:21:38 MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE INTERESTING.
00:21:39 THAT'S
00:21:40 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALWAYS WANTED TO
00:21:42 DO THAT IS
00:21:45 REALLY MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE, LIKE, YOU
00:21:47 KNOW, KIND OF RESTORE IT. KIND OF BRICK IT
00:21:48 BACK UP
00:21:49 TO DATE BECAUSE IT WILL KIND OF BLEND
00:21:51 IN WITH THAT. AND
00:21:53 THEY DID PUT IT THROUGH --CAN THE SANTA
00:21:54 CLARA LUMBER USED
00:21:55 TO BE.
00:21:56 >> IS THERE A QUESTION FOR
00:21:57 STAFF?
00:21:58 >> NO. HOW CAN
00:21:59 WE GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT INTO THE HISTORICAL
00:22:00 LANDMARK? THERE YOU GO.
00:22:03 >> WE
00:22:06 CAN REFER YOUR COMMENTCOMMENT TO
00:22:07 THE HISTORIC LANDMARK COMMISSION.
00:22:09 >> HISTORIC DESIGNATION CAN BE
00:22:12 INITIATED BY THREE PARTIES. THE PROPERTY
00:22:14 OWNER, HICK ACCOUNT LANDMARKS COMMISSION,
00:22:15 AND THE
00:22:16 STIRK. ANY THREE OF THEM CAN INITIATE
00:22:18 THE PROCESS
00:22:20 FOR DESIGNATING A PROPERTY AS HISTORIC.
00:22:21 HOWEVER, NOTE THAT UNDER
00:22:23 OUR CODE THE PROPERTY OWNER MUST CONSENT.
00:22:24 YOU
00:22:26 CANNOT DESIGNATE A PROPERTY AS HISTORIC WITHOUT THE CONSENT
00:22:27 OF THE PROPERTY OWNER.
00:22:30 >> THANK YOU. >> YES.
00:22:35 MORE ON THAT. BY THE WAY, IT SHOULD
00:22:36 BE
00:22:37 ON THE PRESERVATION COMMITTEE AS WELL
00:22:39 AS OUR --
00:22:42 SORRY, LANDMARKS COMMITTEE. I ALSO
00:22:44 USED TO SERVE THE STATE FOR HISTORIC
00:22:45 INVENTORY IN THE STATE. SO
00:22:48 TALK TO ME.
00:22:49 THIS BRINGS BACK SO MUCH CLASSROOM
00:22:51 LEVEL DETAILS. QUESTION THOUGH.
00:22:52 HOW MANY TOTALS AL PROPERTIES DO WE HAVE IN OUR HRI?
00:23:00 >> WE HAVE 372 PROPERTIES AND
00:23:02 IT INCLUDES THE 27 THAT ARE --
00:23:03 >> OF
00:23:04 THOSE, HOW MANY ARE ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER?
00:23:06 >> FIVE.
00:23:09 >> LET'S DO IT. HOW MANY ON THE CALIFORNIA
00:23:10 STATE?
00:23:18 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>
00:23:21 THE REASON I PUT THAT IS THERE ARE PROPERTIES
00:23:22 IN OUR
00:23:24 CITY, VERY, VERY PROUD TO SAY WE
00:23:26 HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO SEVERAL SIGNIFICANT
00:23:27 RESOURCES, NOT JUST
00:23:29 AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, AT THE STATE LEVEL,
00:23:30 AND OF COURSE TO
00:23:33 OUR CITY, THEY ARE JEWELS. SO IN THE
00:23:34 TABLE,
00:23:36 NOT THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE, CAN YOU
00:23:38 IDENTIFY WHICH OF THOSE ARE NATIONAL
00:23:39 REGISTER,
00:23:42 WHICH OF THOSE ARE STATE REGISTER, AND
00:23:43 WHICH
00:23:45 ARE, OF COURSE,
00:23:48 COVER, YOU KNOW, COVERED BECAUSE THEY HAVE A
00:23:49 HIGHER LEVEL OF
00:23:51 ACCOUNTABILITY, ASSUMING THEY ALSO HAVE AN
00:23:53 EXACT PROTECTION SOMEWHERE IN THE
00:23:54 LAYERING THAT PROTECTS THIS PROPERTY.
00:23:57 TO YOUR
00:24:00 OTHER QUESTIONS, YES, THERE IS 200 FEET.
00:24:03 AND EVERY PROPERTY THAT COMES WITH
00:24:06 SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATION AROUND THAT PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE
00:24:08 REFERRED TO HLC, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT
00:24:09 ON THE INVENTORY.
00:24:12 SO WHEN WE ADD A PROPERTY TO THE INVENTORY,
00:24:14 IT ALSO TRIGGERS THIS ADDITIONAL --
00:24:15 OR
00:24:17 THE 200 FEET PROPERTY NEIGHBORS WILL
00:24:18 GET
00:24:20 IMPACTED IF THEY --A NEW PROPERTY
00:24:22 COMES INTO
00:24:25 THE SYSTEMS. OTHER --WE DO
00:24:28 NOT. WE HAVE NOT TAKEN
00:24:31 --OTHER
00:24:34 JURISDICTIONS TO HAVE HISTORIC
00:24:36 THAT GIVE ZONING ORDINANCE PROTECTION.
00:24:38 WE HAVE OUR HRI AS THE BASE. RESOURCE AND RENT.
00:24:55 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> I
00:24:58 BELIEVE 2007 ON OUR
00:24:59 APPENDIX. SO SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY
00:25:01 ARE MARKED
00:25:04 BY THE SYMBOL R --AN R.
00:25:05 SO 981 FREMONT STREET, FOR EXAMPLE, IS ON THE NATIONAL
00:25:07 REGISTRY.
00:25:10 554 MANSION PARK DRIVE.
00:25:11 >> I SEE.
00:25:16 >> 4220 NETWORK CIRCLE.
00:25:19 >> OKAY.
00:25:23 >> 1005 RAILROAD AVENUE. >> MM-HMM.
00:25:25 >> AND 1217 SANTA CLARA STREET.
00:25:28 >> INTERESTING. WHAT IS MA?
00:25:34 >> MA? MILLS ACT. >> THANK YOU.
00:25:37 IT WILL BE HELPFUL FOR
00:25:39 ANYBODY, LAYPERSON.
00:25:40 >> YEAH. >> TO HAVE A LEGEND IN
00:25:41 EACH OF THOSE.
00:25:42 >> AT THE VERY BOTTOM. >> OKAY. THANK
00:25:43 YOU. JUST
00:25:45 BELOW --BELOW SO WE ARE NOT GOING
00:25:49 BACK AND -- TO THETHE --OKAY. GREAT.
00:25:50 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
00:25:51 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO STAFF? YES.
00:25:58 >> MY QUESTION IS NOT -- FIRST
00:26:01 OFF, I AM NOT TRYING TO BE AN
00:26:04 ADVOCATE
00:26:05 FOR EITHER HISTORICAL PROPERTIES OR DEVELOPERS.
00:26:06 I WANT TO UNDERSTAND SINCE I DIDN'T SEE IT, ARE
00:26:10 THERE ANY PROVISIONS TO DEFEND
00:26:13 AGAINST WEAPONIZING
00:26:16 HISTORICAL ACCESS --
00:26:17 ASSETS AGAINST DEVELOPMENT. SOMEONE COMING IN
00:26:19 AND FORCING THROUGH OR TRYING TO PUSH
00:26:22 THROUGH HISTORICAL ASSET TO
00:26:25 BLOCK A DEVELOPMENT. ALSO, ARE
00:26:28 THERE ANY 'PEELS THAT PEOPLE CAN
00:26:31 MAKE IF THEY
00:26:33 ARE TRYING TO RAISE THEIR PROPERTY
00:26:34 TO AN
00:26:37 HISTORICAL ASSET BEYOND
00:26:39 THE CITY REVIEW. DO THEY IMMEDIATELY GO TO THE
00:26:40 STATE AND THEN NATIONAL?
00:26:44 I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE HIERARCHY.
00:26:46 THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.
00:26:49 >> DO I MEAN,
00:26:52 LIKE, USING THIS AS A WAY SO THAT THEY
00:26:55 CAN'T DEMOLISH THEIR PROPERTY? IS THAT WHAT YOU
00:26:56 ARE TRYING
00:26:57 TO SAY?
00:26:58 >> NO. ACTUALLY, IF I WAS
00:26:59 A DEVELOPER AND CAME IN
00:27:01 AND WANTED TO BUILD A UNIFIED
00:27:02 DEVELOPMENT, A BLOCK OF PROPERTY --
00:27:04 OR A BLOCK OF
00:27:06 APARTMENTS AND OTHER THINGS, AND THERE IS
00:27:07 AN OLDER HOUSE
00:27:09 THERE, THE OWNER DOESN'T WANT TO SELL.
00:27:10 THEY
00:27:13 SEEK IT TO BECOME
00:27:15 HISTORICAL ASSET AND THAT BLOCKS THE
00:27:16 ABILITY OF
00:27:19 THE DEVELOPER TO COMPLETE THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
00:27:22 THAT'S A WEAPONIZATION OF HISTORICAL
00:27:25 ASSETS AS A MEANS TO BLOCK DEVELOPMENT.
00:27:26 I AM
00:27:28 NOT TRYING TO ADVOCATE FOR THE DEVELOPER. I
00:27:30 JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND --
00:27:31 >> WE CAN'T FORCE
00:27:32 SOMEONE TO
00:27:33 SELL THEIR PROPERTY EITHER. SO THERE
00:27:34 ARE KINDA TWO
00:27:36 THINGS THERE.
00:27:37 >> BUT THERE IS ENOUGH STEPS
00:27:38 AND PROCESSES IN
00:27:39 PLACE --
00:27:40 >> YEAH, CORRECT. >> --TO
00:27:41 PREVENT THE OWNER
00:27:42 OF SAYING, HEY, IT'S HISTORICAL?
00:27:43 >> CORRECT.
00:27:44 >> RIGHT?
00:27:46 >> YES. >> PUBLIC HEARING
00:27:48 PROCESS, ABSOLUTELY.
00:27:49 >> RIGHT. >>
00:27:50 IT'S
00:27:51 NOT THE OWNERS DISCRETION. IT'S THE CITY
00:27:54 COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.
00:27:55 >> CORRECT.
00:27:56 >> AND AS YOU --
00:27:57 >> QUALIFIED HISTORIAN. >> IF THE CITY SAYS
00:27:58 NO, THEY
00:28:00 HAVE THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
00:28:01 TO
00:28:04 RUN IT AND WE HAVE NO SAY OVER.
00:28:07 YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE IT WAS THE
00:28:10 POMEROY GREEN TOWN HOST THAT SORT OF
00:28:11 SURPRISED US WHEN THEY
00:28:12 SHOWED UP ONE DAY WITH A NATIONAL DESIGNATION.
00:28:13 >> RIGHT.
00:28:14 >> AND THEY ARE NOT ON OUR HRI. >> YES.
00:28:19 AND APPARENTLY IT'S FREE. SO,
00:28:22 YEAH. WHO KNOWS? MAYBE PEOPLE WILL TAKE
00:28:23 ADVANTAGE
00:28:24 OF THAT. THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
00:28:25 I NEVER HEARD OF
00:28:27 THAT, WEAPONIZING IT. YEAH, I THINK THE
00:28:28 STRONGEST PROTECTION THEY HAVE
00:28:30 IS SIMPLY NOT TO SELL. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN FORCE
00:28:31 SOMEONE TO SELL.
00:28:36 UNLESS IT'S EMINENT DOMAIN. I DON'T THINK
00:28:38 THE CITY'S IN THE PROCESS --
00:28:39 >> THIS IS
00:28:40 A REMINDER, WE HAVE HAD
00:28:43 RECENT ISSUES IN THE CITY OF EMINENT
00:28:46 DOMAIN AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PRESSURED DEVELOPMENTS.
00:28:47 SO I
00:28:48 WAS WONDERING IF OWNERS WOULD PUSH
00:28:49 BACK
00:28:51 USING HISTORICAL ASSETS AND IT SEEMS LIKE A
00:28:52 NATURAL DEFENSE MECHANISM.
00:28:55 .
00:28:56 >> JUST TO BRING THE
00:28:58 POINT THAT YOU BROUGHT
00:28:59 UP COMES TO MINDS IS THE DEVELOPMENT
00:29:02 ON EL CAMINO NEXT TO OVER
00:29:05 HERE NEXT TO OUR CENTER.
00:29:06 THERE WAS A LITTLE HOUSE THAT USED
00:29:08 TO BE NEXT TO THE CAR WASH,
00:29:10 HISTORICAL HOME THERE. AND THE DEVELOPER
00:29:11 WANTING
00:29:12 TO BUILD THERE WHAT HE DECIDED TO
00:29:13 TO TAKE THE HOUSE, MOVE THE HOUSE, AND
00:29:16 PUT IT IN BACK. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE EXAMPLES
00:29:17 OF
00:29:19 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID AND
00:29:20 THAT WAS VERY
00:29:22 WELL DONE.
00:29:23 >> NOT TO BELABOR, BUT
00:29:24 I HAVE EXACTLY THAT ISSUE A BLOCK
00:29:26 AWAY WHERE THEY PICKED UP THE
00:29:29 HOUSE ON THE CORNER
00:29:32 OF PEPPER TREE
00:29:35 LANE AND BOL JER AND PUSHED IT
00:29:38 BACK IN ORDER TO RESUME A
00:29:39 DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS NEARBY AND ACROSS THE
00:29:41 FRONT OF IT. IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A HAPPENING
00:29:42 THING. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE
00:29:44 WE UNDERSTOOD
00:29:46 IT AND THE CITY IS PREPARED TO RESPOND
00:29:48 IF THAT KIND OF AN ISSUE COMES UP.
00:29:52 OKAY.
00:29:53 >> AND JUST TO -- NOT TO BELABOR
00:29:54 THE ABILITY FOR
00:29:56 ANY DEVELOPER TO STILL COME IN, IT IS
00:29:58 BY THEIR RIGHT, THEY CAN. THE SECRETARY
00:30:01 OF INTIER STANDARDS THAT GOVERNS DEVELOPMENT EITHER TO THE
00:30:02 HISTORIC
00:30:03 RESOURCE ITSELF OR AROUND IT AND THERE IS
00:30:05 A
00:30:08 LOT
00:30:10 OF FLEXIBILITY AND REASONABLE WAYS
00:30:12 WHERE THE PRESERVATION INTERESTS --
00:30:14 SO IT'S NOT LIKE
00:30:16 A FOREGONE CONCLUSION THE SECRETARY
00:30:17 OF INTERIOR IS LIKE
00:30:18 TEN COVENANTS, IF YOU CAN MEET THEM.
00:30:23 >> IF ANYBODY WANTS A REALLY
00:30:24 GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT I'MI'M ABOUT,
00:30:26 WATCH BATTERIES
00:30:27 NOT INCLUDED. THE WHOLE PREMISE OF THE MOVIE
00:30:29 IS, YEAH, EXACTLY.
00:30:33 IT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF PUSHING IT TO
00:30:35 A WEAPON.
00:30:36 >> ALL RIGHT.
00:30:37 ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?
00:30:41 GOOD.
00:30:43 STAFF, THE QUIZ IS OVER FOR THE MOMENT.
00:30:44 NOW WE ARE GOING TO OPEN
00:30:47 IT
00:30:50 UP TO THE PUBLIC. ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE
00:30:51 TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE?
00:30:53 >> YES.
00:30:55 MARY GRISTLE. YOU WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES.
00:31:00 >> GIVE ME A SECOND, PLEASE. >> SURE.
00:31:14 >> IT'S A PLEASURE TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
00:31:16 I KNOW MOST OF YOU, AND I KNOW YOU'RE -- YOU WORK REALLY HARD
00:31:17 AT WHAT YOU DO.
00:31:26 I'M HERE MORE --FOR THIS
00:31:29 ITEM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT
00:31:31 HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS IMPORTANT
00:31:32 WHEN
00:31:35 A BUILDING HAS TRUE HISTORICAL
00:31:36 SIGNIFICANCE. IT DESERVES PROTECTION AND
00:31:38 RESPECT.
00:31:39 BUT HISTORICAL STATUS SHOULD BE EARNED, NOT ASSUMED.
00:31:44 WE SHOULD NOT
00:31:47 BE PLACING HOMES
00:31:48 INTO AN HISTORIC CATEGORY UNLESS THEY CLEARLY
00:31:50 MEET ESTABLISHED RIGOROUS CRITERIA
00:31:51 FOR HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURAL OR CULTURAL
00:31:53 SIGNIFICANCE.
00:31:56 WE SHOULD NOT
00:31:59 BE --WHEN WE DESIGNATE PROPERTIES WITHOUT
00:32:00 THAT
00:32:02 LEVEL OF SIGNIFICANCE, THE
00:32:03 IMPACTS REACH FAR BEYOND A SINGLE HOUSE.
00:32:10 HISTORIC DESIGNATION AFFECTS ZONING
00:32:11 AND DENSITY, HOUSING
00:32:13 SUPPLY AND AFFORDABILITY, PROPERTY
00:32:14 RIGHTS,
00:32:17 FUTURE PLANNING DECISIONS, OUR ABILITY
00:32:20 TO IMPLEMENT ADOPTED PLANS AND
00:32:22 STATE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS. ONCE A
00:32:23 HOME
00:32:26 IS DESIGNATED HISTORIC, IT CAN LOCK
00:32:29 IN LIMIT
00:32:32 HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND
00:32:35 RESTRICT REASONABLE CHANGES,
00:32:36 NOT JUST FOR THAT PARCEL BUT FOR SURROUNDING PROPERTIES
00:32:38 AS WELL. THESE DECISIONS
00:32:41 CAN QUIETLY UNDERMINE
00:32:44 OUR LOCAL LAWS AND
00:32:46 LONG-TERM PLANNING GOALS. PRESERVATION SHOULD TELL YOU
00:32:47 A STORY ABOUT
00:32:48 OUR CITY, ITS HISTORY, ITS CULTURE, AND ITS
00:32:50 PEOPLE.
00:32:53 IT SHOULD NOT BECOME
00:32:56 A WORK-AROUND TO
00:32:59 STOP CHANGE, BLOCK HOUSING, OR
00:33:02 OVERRIDE ADOPTING ZONING POLICY.
00:33:03 IF EVERYTHING IS HISTORIC, THEN NOTHING TRULY IS.
00:33:08 AND I'D HIKE TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE. I KNOW A LOT THE OF
00:33:09 THE PUBLIC
00:33:12 ARE SAYING THAT THE OLD
00:33:13 COURTHOUSE IN THE DOWNTOWN SHOULD BE --
00:33:17 HAS SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL --THAT
00:33:18 SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED HISTORICAL BUILDING.
00:33:24 SO THANK YOU.
00:33:25 >> THANK YOU.
00:33:27 ANYONE ELSE?
00:33:28 >> THANK YOU.
00:33:29 >> WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBERS NOR ONLINE
00:33:30 REQUESTING TO SPEAK.
00:33:37 >> SHALL WE -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
00:33:39 >> SECOND.
00:33:59 >> MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CHERUKURU, SECONDED.
00:34:00 CAST YOUR VOTE PLEASE.
00:34:09 >> I'D LEAK TO DO A VERBAL.
00:34:10 I JUST LOST CONNECTION HERE.
00:34:11 >> THANK YOU.
00:34:12 THE MOTION PASSED. THANK YOU.
00:34:15 >> ALL RIGHT.
00:34:24 WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION?
00:34:25 >> MAY I REQUEST TWO MOTION, PLEASE?
00:34:30 TWO MOTIONS, PLEASE?
00:34:33 >> OKAY. I MOVE --BY THE
00:34:34 WAY, JUST REALLY GOOD EFFORT. THANK YOU AGAIN
00:34:36 FOR BRINGING THIS.
00:34:39 IT'S ALWAYS A PLEASURE
00:34:41 TO REMINISCENT AND APPRECIATE THE
00:34:42 HISTORIC PROPERTIES
00:34:45 IN THE CITY.
00:34:46 SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS AND ALIGNING WITH
00:34:48 THE GENERAL PLAN. I MOVE THAT
00:34:50 WE DETERMINE THE PROJECT FALLS WITHIN
00:34:51 THE SCOPE OF
00:34:54 THE 2010-
00:34:56 2035 GENERAL PLAN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
00:34:58 REPORT PURSUANT SO CEQA GUIDELINES
00:35:00 SECTION 15168 C 2.
00:35:05 >> SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BOUZA. >> THANK YOU.
00:35:09 THE
00:35:12 MOTION WAS MADE BY COMMISSIONER
00:35:15 CHAIR CRUTCHLOW TO APPROVE STAFF
00:35:18 RECOMMENDATION ONE. GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTE,
00:35:19 PLEASE.
00:35:20 >> VERBAL YES FOR ME. >> THANK YOU.
00:35:21 >> AND THE MOTION PASSED. THANK YOU.
00:35:30 >> I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT
00:35:33 A RESOLUTION RECOMMENDING THE CITY
00:35:35 COUNCIL AMEND THE GENERAL PLAN TO
00:35:37 UPDATE THE HISTORIC RESOURCE INVENTORY LIST IN
00:35:38 APPENDIX 8.9 OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
00:35:42 >> SECOND.
00:35:48 >> THE
00:35:51 MOTION WAS MADE
00:35:53 BY COMMISSIONER CHAIR CRUTCHLOW, SECONDED
00:35:54 BY -- GO AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.
00:35:59 VERY GOOD. THE MOTION PASSED. THANK YOU.
00:36:00 >> GREAT.
00:36:05 ITEM NUMBER 3. PUBLIC HEARING RECOMMENDATION ON
00:36:06 THE ADOPTION OF
00:36:08 THE CITYWIDE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS
00:36:09 FOR
00:36:12 A MULTI-FAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL
00:36:13 MIXED-USE PROJECTS INTO THE SANTA CLARA ZONING CODE.
00:36:18 CEQA ADDENDUM TO
00:36:20 THE 2010-2035 GENERAL PLAN EIR. STAFF?
00:36:24 GIVE A MOMENT FOR STAFF TO GET
00:36:27 READY.
00:36:28 >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
00:36:54 JUST AS A REMINDER WHILEWHILE ALEX
00:36:55 GETS
00:36:56 SET UP. WE HAD A STUDY SESSION FOR YOU
00:36:57 ON THIS TOPIC
00:37:00 BACK IN OCTOBER, I
00:37:01 BELIEVE. SO THIS IS THE ITEM BEFORE YOU
00:37:03 THIS EVENING.
00:37:24 >> THANK YOU,
00:37:26 LESLIE, FOR THAT INTRODUCTION. GOOD EVENING CHAIR
00:37:27 AND COMMISSIONERS.
00:37:30 I'M ALEX, I'M A PLANNER HERE WITH
00:37:33 THE CITY OF SANTA CLARA AND TONIGHT WE
00:37:34 HAVE
00:37:36 HERE THE
00:37:39 OBJECTIVE DEZBLIERNDS PHASE ONE. RTC 25-602.
00:37:46 SO FOR TONIGHT I WANTED
00:37:47 TO GIVE A QUICK AGENDA FOR WHAT WE
00:37:49 WILL BE DISCUSSING ON THIS
00:37:51 PRESENTATION. SO GOING FROM REQUEST AND WE
00:37:52 WILL BE
00:37:53 MOVING TOWARDS THE BACKGROUND AGAIN
00:37:55 TO JUST IN CASE
00:37:57 IF THE PUBLIC DIDN'T ATTEND THE STUDY
00:37:58 SESSION, THEY WILL
00:38:01 GET A REPERSON E
00:38:02 FRESHER OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THE STUDY SESSION.
00:38:04 THEN, ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WE
00:38:06 WILL DISCUSS WHAT'S CHANGED SINCE
00:38:08 THE STUDY SESSION, JUST COSMETICS
00:38:10 HAVE CHANGED FROM THE DESIGN OF THE
00:38:13 I GUESS, BEFORE IT WAS A WORKING
00:38:16 DOCUMENT, NOW IT'S FOR ADOPTION.
00:38:19 AND WE'LL END
00:38:22 UP
00:38:25 WITH THE CALABAZAS BOULEVARD
00:38:26 CALIFORNIA SEE QUALITY ACT AND END WITH A RECOMMENDATION
00:38:28 FROM STAFF.
00:38:30 ALRIGHTY. SO TONIGHT STAFF IS --WITH
00:38:31 CAN IS TO
00:38:32 PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY
00:38:34 COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE
00:38:37 CITYWIDE OBJECTIVITY ZION
00:38:38 STANDARDS FOR MULTI-FAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL MIXED-USE
00:38:43 PROJECTS CODE AS
00:38:46 CHAPTER 18.27. GREAT THAT WE HAD
00:38:48 A FEW SECTIONS IN BETWEEN THIS CHAPTER SO WE
00:38:51 CAN FILL IN INSTEAD OF MOVING EVERYTHING AROUND, WHICH WAS
00:38:52 HELPFUL.
00:38:56 SO FOR THE COMMISSION ALSO FOR THE
00:38:58 PUBLIC, HERE IS BACKGROUND.
00:39:00 SO WHEN CAN HE DISCUSS OBJECTIVE STANDARDS,
00:39:04 THIS IS WHAT WE REFER TO IN THE
00:39:06 CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION.
00:39:10 65913. 4 AND REFERRED IN
00:39:12 63300 A AND 7. THE DEFINITION IS -- INVOLVES
00:39:13 NO
00:39:16 PERSONAL OR SUBJECTIVE JUDGMENT
00:39:18 BY A PUBLIC OFFICIAL AND OUR UNIFORMLY
00:39:19 VERIFIABLE
00:39:21 BY REFERENCE TO A UNIFORM BENCHMARK
00:39:25 OR CRITERION AVAILABLE AND BOTH
00:39:28 THE APPLICANT OR PROPONENT BEFORE SUBMIT AL.
00:39:34 OTHER THAN THE DEFINITION,
00:39:36 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN CALLED OUT
00:39:37 IN THE HOUSING
00:39:40 ELEMENT AS A POLICY, POLICY A-3,
00:39:42 WHICH IS UTILIZE OBJECTIVE DESIGN
00:39:44 STANDARDS TO STREAMLINE THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
00:39:46 THE
00:39:49 INTENT IS TO EVENTUALLY CREATE
00:39:52 A CHECKLIST WHEN
00:39:54 APPLICANTS TO CREATE PREDICTABLE STANDARDS.
00:39:55 THEY KNOW WHEN
00:39:56 THEY INVEST IN SANTA CLARA WHAT THEY
00:39:58 EXPECT FROM STAFF WHEN THEY REVIEW
00:40:01 THEIR APPLICATIONS. ALRIGHTY.
00:40:04 AS MENTIONED IN THE STUDY SESSION, THERE IS A REASON
00:40:07 WHY ALSO STAFF IS PRETTY
00:40:10 ADAMANT
00:40:11 ABOUT THIS REQUEST. EVERY YEAR THERE IS A NEW STATE
00:40:13 LAW THAT IS EXEMPTING CERTAIN SCOPES OF
00:40:16 WORK FROM
00:40:17 PUBLIC HEARINGS AND PRETTY MUCH ONLY
00:40:19 HAVING THESE SCOPES OF WORK BE
00:40:22 REVIEWED WITH WHAT THEY DEION THE GOVERNMENT
00:40:23 CODE
00:40:24 PREVIOUSLY IN THE LAST SLIDE. ON THE
00:40:25 SLIDE RIGHT
00:40:27 NOW AS YOU CAN SEE IS ALL THE DIFFERENT
00:40:28 STATE LAWS
00:40:31 THAT HAVE CALLED OUT OBJECTIVE DEZBLIERNDS AS WHAT
00:40:32 NEEDS TO BE USED TO REVIEW THEIR APPLICATION.
00:40:34 AND
00:40:36 THE INTENT IS LIKE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY IS
00:40:37 TO CREATE
00:40:40 THIS
00:40:43 PREDICTABLE USER FRIEND
00:40:46 E FRIENDLY TOOLKIT AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS
00:40:47 TO PRESERVE THE
00:40:48 LOCAL CONTROL AND PROVIDE STANDARDS
00:40:49 THAT CAN IMPLEMENT THE CITY'S URBAN DESIGN VISION.
00:40:55 SO FOR TONIGHT FOR RECOMMENDATION THESE
00:40:56 WILL
00:40:58 BE THE TYPE OF SCOPES THAT
00:41:01 WILL BE PUBLIC WITH THESE OBJECTIVE
00:41:04 DESIGN STANDARDS AS WE ARE USING STSHDS
00:41:07 FOUND IN OUR SPECIFIC PLANS AND PRECISE
00:41:10 PLANS. THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT
00:41:14 WILL BE, I GUESS,
00:41:16 ON THE REVIEW OF THE STANDARDS. THESE
00:41:20 ARE PRETTY COMMON PROJECTS THE CITY
00:41:21 OF SANTA CLARA HAS RECEIVED, ESPECIALLY TOWNHOUSES.
00:41:23 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED
00:41:26 TO PRIORITIZE.
00:41:28 ALRIGHTY. THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN AS YOU
00:41:29 CAN
00:41:31 SEE THERE IS A PHASE ONE. SO WE ARE
00:41:32 CURRENTLY
00:41:33 USING EXISTING STANDARDS. THESE ARE STANDARDS
00:41:35 FOUND IN ALL FIVE
00:41:38 SPECIFIC PLANS IN THE DOWNTOWN PRECISE
00:41:39 PLAN. ORIGINALLY, WHEN THE CITY DEVELOPED THESE
00:41:41 PLANS, THERE WAS THE
00:41:42 INTENT THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE DEVELOPMENT
00:41:44 IN THESE AREAS.
00:41:46 BUT SINCE THE PANDEMIC AND AT LEAST WHAT I
00:41:47 KNOW FROM
00:41:50 MY TIME HERE,
00:41:51 MOST OF THE PROPOSALS HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE THESE
00:41:53 SPECIFIC AREAS. SO THIS PRETTY MUCH CREATES
00:41:55 SOME PREDICTABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO DEVELOP IN
00:41:56 THE CITY.
00:41:59 THESE STANDARDS HAVE BEEN VETTED
00:42:01 BY THE COMMUNITY AND DECISIONMAKERS THROUGH
00:42:02 THE PROCESS
00:42:05 OF
00:42:07 CREATING THE SPECIFIC PLAN AND DOWNTOWN PRECISE PLAN.
00:42:08 STAFF KEPT THEY AS THE ORIGINAL
00:42:11 TEXT THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED FIRST.
00:42:14 BASED ON STATE LAW WE NEED TO HAVE THE
00:42:17 STANDARDS IN PLACE BEFORE APPLICATION
00:42:18 SUBMITTED FOR AREAS OUTSIDE THE PLANS TO
00:42:20 BE APPLICABLE.
00:42:23 SO ESPECIALLY WITH SP 30 APPLICATIONS
00:42:24 WHICH ALLOWS
00:42:25 MANY DEVELOPERS IT TO LOCK IN THEIR
00:42:26 STANDARDS, THIS
00:42:29 WILL ALLOW CITY TO HAVE SOME --A
00:42:31 TOOLKIT, YOU KNOW, WHILE STAFF GOES
00:42:34 INTO PHASE TWO, WHICH CREATES -- TO
00:42:35 FILL IN ALL THE GAPS.
00:42:38 JUST AS THE PHASE TWO CAN
00:42:41 TAKE A
00:42:42 LOT LONGER. THIS WILL HAVE SOME STANDARDS
00:42:44 IN
00:42:46 PLACE. THESE ARE COHESIVE AND ARE
00:42:47 ACHIEVABLE.
00:42:50 THESE ARE STANDARDS THAT ARE
00:42:52 BASED ON WHAT'S RECOMMENDED ON THE
00:42:56 MANUAL BY THE ASSOCIATION OF THE AREA
00:42:58 GOVERNMENTS TO CREATE CENTERS, TWO
00:42:59 HARD
00:43:00 FOR DEVELOPERS THAT THEY WAIVE THEM.
00:43:02 THESE CENTERS ARE ACHIEVABLE AND WORK
00:43:05 OKAY WITH EACH OTHER. AND JUST WHAT
00:43:07 THE STUDY SESSION, WITH WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME
00:43:08 STANDARDS THAT
00:43:11 NEEDS TO BE ADDED AND ALSO WITH
00:43:14 SOME FEEDBACK FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND THAT'S
00:43:15 SOMETHING THAT WE WILL WORK ON WITH PHASE TWO.
00:43:23 SO JUST FOR EVERYBODY,
00:43:26 THE OBJECTIVE HERE IS TO CREATE CLEAR
00:43:29 OBJECTIVE MEASURABLE STANDARDS FOR THESE TYPES
00:43:32 OF PROJECTS CITYWIDE TO STREAMLINE
00:43:33 THE
00:43:34 VEE REVIEW OF THESE PROJECTS. CITI
00:43:35 CITIES ARE --
00:43:37 CONTINUOUSLY MANDATED TO HAVE CLOCKS.
00:43:38 THIS
00:43:41 HELPS US MAIN THAT AND STICK ON THOSE TIMELINES
00:43:45 AND ENSURING BUILDINGS
00:43:47 ARE APPROPRIATE TO THEIR SURROUNDING
00:43:50 ENVIRONMENT. THE INTENT TO CREATE
00:43:51 CONTEXT SENSITIVE
00:43:54 SITE DESIGN AND MAINTAIN QUALITY
00:43:56 ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN. AND LASTLY, TO PROMOTE MORE
00:43:57 PEDESTRIAN SCALE BUILD
00:44:00 ENVIRONMENT.
00:44:03 ALRIGHTY. SO AS YOU
00:44:05 CAN SEE, THIS IS THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.
00:44:08 THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE CITY CODE.
00:44:09 FOR
00:44:11 THE COMMISSIONERS, THIS IS A LOT DIFFERENT
00:44:12 THAN SHOWN IN
00:44:14 THE STUDY SESSION. BUT THE OBJECTIVE
00:44:17 WILL BE DIVIDED IN THREE SECTIONS,
00:44:18 SITE
00:44:20 DESIGN, BUILDING DESIGN AND PEDESTRIAN
00:44:21 LEVEL DESIGN.
00:44:23 NOW THE CHANGES. COSMETIC. WE WANTED
00:44:25 TO ENSURE THAT THE FORMULA WAS FOLLOWING THE CITY
00:44:27 CODES STYLE.
00:44:28 SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT THIS WAS THE
00:44:30 WORKING DOCUMENT THAT
00:44:31 DURING THE STUDY SESSION AND THE RIGHT IS WHAT'S
00:44:33 IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
00:44:36 THE REFERENCES HAVE
00:44:37 BEEN REMOVED. THAT WAS SOMETHING IN
00:44:39 THE STUDY SESSION
00:44:40 TO HELP THE COMMISSION UNDERSTAND WHERE STAFF PULLED
00:44:42 THE STANDARDS FROM.
00:44:44 SO THE WORK -- I MEAN, THE FINAL DOCUMENT IN FRONT YOU HAVE
00:44:45 TONIGHT DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
00:44:51 BUT, YEAH. THIS IS NOW HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK
00:44:52 LIKE. SO COHESIVE WITH THE CITY CODE.
00:44:56 ALRIGHTY. SO PUBLIC OUTREACH FOR THIS.
00:45:00 WE DID SEND OUT A
00:45:01 NOTICE TO THE SANTA CLARA WEEKLY AND WE
00:45:03 RECEIVED NO COMMENTS.
00:45:06 THIS WAS
00:45:07 DONE ON DECEMBER 23rd OF LAST YEAR.
00:45:09 AND THE PUBLIC
00:45:10 CONTACT WAS ALSO MADE BY POSTING THE
00:45:11 AGENDA ON OUR BULLETIN OUTSIDE THE CITY
00:45:12 HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
00:45:18 AND JUST
00:45:20 REAL QUICK, JUST FOR THE PEOPLE ONLINE
00:45:21 AND ANYBODY IN
00:45:22 PUBLIC AND THE COMMISSION, FOR PHASE TWO WE --
00:45:27 THIS IS WHERE WE DO A BIG PUBLIC OUTREACH
00:45:28 UNDERTAKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND DEVELOPERS.
00:45:30 SO JUST BECAUSE THIS
00:45:33 WILL BE PHASE ONE IS JUST A BASELINE.
00:45:34 THERE
00:45:35 IS WHERE WE TAKE A LOT OF FEEDBACK
00:45:36 AND TAKE THE TIME
00:45:38 TO, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT THE GAPS ARE
00:45:42 AND WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS FOR CHANGE AND/OR ADDED.
00:45:48 ALRIGHTY.
00:45:51 I'LL DO SUMMARY OF THIS AS
00:45:54 MENTIONED,
00:45:57 EVERY PROJECT NEEDS
00:45:58 TO BE EVALUATE. IMPLEMENTATION OF
00:46:00 THE HOUSING ELEMENT.
00:46:03 -WHICH THE CITY DID
00:46:05 PREPARE AN ADDENDUM TO THE ORIGINAL GENERAL
00:46:06 PLAN
00:46:09 ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT. IT
00:46:12 DIDN'T ALL THESE ACTIONS WILL RESULT IN
00:46:13 AN
00:46:15 ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS BEYOND THOSE DESCRIBE IN
00:46:16 THE ORIGINAL GENERAL PLAN UPDATE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.
00:46:18 AND SO THIS
00:46:21 WAS
00:46:24 JUST MENTIONING PRETTY MUCH WHEN IT
00:46:26 WAS ADOPTED AND APPROVED BY BOTH THE CITY
00:46:27 COUNCIL.
00:46:30 AND THE
00:46:31 ACTION TONIGHT FALLS WITHIN THE SCOPE.
00:46:33 ADOPTED ADDENDUM.
00:46:39 THEREFORE, STAFF IS TONIGHT HERE COMING
00:46:40 TO RECOMMEND
00:46:41 THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND
00:46:42 THE APPROVAL TO THE CITY
00:46:44 COUNCIL, THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT
00:46:48 WITH THE JANUARY 31, 2023
00:46:51 ADDENDUM TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT
00:46:54 PURSUANT TO THE
00:46:56 CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT
00:46:57 AND ALSO TO RECOMMEND
00:46:59 ADOPTION OF THE STANDARD -- OF THE
00:47:00 ORDINANCE. AND
00:47:02 THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION. STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY
00:47:03 QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
00:47:05 >> QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? >> I HAVE.
00:47:09 AND I APOLOGIZE IF THIS
00:47:11 WAS ADDRESSED AT THIS STUDY SESSION.
00:47:12 SO I PLEAD GUILTY HERE.
00:47:15 BUT JUST QUICK LOGISTICS QUESTIONS.
00:47:18 IN THE APPLICATION
00:47:21 OF THIS, WHEN YOU --IF
00:47:24 YOU GO TO THE --WHO ALL WILL BE
00:47:27 SUBJECT TO THE OBJECTIVE DEZBLIERNDS, ARE
00:47:28 PREAPPLICATIONS CONSIDERED PART OF A FORMAL APPLICATION?
00:47:30 OF A PROJECT?
00:47:39 >> YEAH. >> IS THERE A SUNSET CLAUSE
00:47:40 TO
00:47:41 AN APPLICATION? A APPLICATION CAN BE HELD AT BAY
00:47:43 FOR YEARS AT LEAST.
00:47:46 WHAT IS THE --IS THERE A
00:47:48 SUNSET CLAUSE FOR WHEN THE APPLICATION
00:47:49 WILL BE SUBJECT
00:47:52 TO THESE STANDARDS?
00:47:53 >> YES. OUR
00:47:55 CITY CODE DOES HAVE SUNSET
00:47:56 CLAUSES FOR CERTAIN PROJECTS MGS.
00:47:58 THE MOST COMMON IS THE 180 DAYS.
00:48:01 IF AN APPLICATION IS
00:48:03 INACTIVE AND THEN THE APPLICATION
00:48:06 IS FORMALLY WITHDRAWN. STAFF USUALLY
00:48:07 SENDS A NOTICE
00:48:09 SAYING IF THE ACTIVITY COULD BE ANYTHING
00:48:10 FROM
00:48:12 SUBMIT ALF PLANS. IF STAFF STUNT SEE
00:48:13 ANY OF THAT
00:48:15 WITHIN 180 DAYS, THE APPLICATION IS
00:48:16 WITHDRAWN AND
00:48:17 THEN IF THEY CONSIDER RESUBMITTING,
00:48:19 THEY NEED TO FOLLOW THE CURRENT
00:48:20 STANDARDS, WHICH AT THIS POINT WOULD BE THE
00:48:22 SUBJECTIVE STANDARDS.
00:48:23 >> OKAY.
00:48:28 KNOW THAT ACTIVITY IS A VERY
00:48:29 BROAD TERM. I HAVE BEEN THERE. SO I UNDERSTAND.
00:48:31 LET'S
00:48:33 BE A LITTLE MORE DEFINING OF WHAT
00:48:34 THAT
00:48:37 ACTIVITY LOOKS LIKE. IT CAN BE I
00:48:39 TALKED, I SUBMITTED AN EMAIL AND THAT'S
00:48:40 ACTIVITY,
00:48:42 OR IS THERE SUBSTANTIAL ADHERENCE
00:48:43 TO THE
00:48:46 APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS? AKA, COMMON
00:48:47 REVIEW, SOMETHING MORE EXPLICITLY DEFINES WHAT
00:48:49 ACTIVITY IS.
00:48:55 HOW IS THE DESIGN STANDARDS --
00:48:58 CAN IT OR IT IMPACT
00:49:00 THE HISTORICAL PROPERTIES, DESIGNATION?
00:49:01 WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
00:49:07 AND HOW WOULD NEW PROJECTS
00:49:10 ADJACENT OR PROPERTIES THAT ARE
00:49:13 CURRENTLY IN THE INVENTORY
00:49:16 BE IMPACTED BY THE SNRDS.
00:49:17 >>
00:49:18 SO BASED ON STATE LAW, CERTAIN STATE
00:49:19 LAW --
00:49:21 SORRY, HISTORICAL PROPERTIES ARE EXEMPT
00:49:22 FROM
00:49:24 CERTAIN STATE LAWS BASED ON IF THEY ARE
00:49:25 FORMALLY DESIGNATED IN THE CASE OF THE
00:49:28 HRI, IT'S A
00:49:29 FORMAL, I GUESS, PART OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
00:49:31 TO ANSWER YOUR
00:49:33 QUESTION, IF THE PROPERTY IS ON THE
00:49:34 HRI AS MENTIONED
00:49:37 IN THE PREVIOUSPREVIOUS ITEM, THESE STANDARDS WOULDN'T BE
00:49:38 APPLICABLE.
00:49:43 I THINK
00:49:45 OUR HISTORICAL PRESERVATION OF THE
00:49:46 CODE WOULD BE APPLICABLE.
00:49:48 TO ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION. THE SECOND
00:49:49 PART,
00:49:52 NOW ADJACENT PROPERTIES, THE ONLY THING THAT
00:49:55 WE ADDED INTO, I GUESS, THE
00:49:57 ENTITLEMENT PROCESS IS THAT THE PROJECTS
00:49:58 WILL STILL --
00:50:01 LIKE OUTSIDE OF THE HRI BUT IN
00:50:04 THE RADIUS, THEY STILL
00:50:05 -- IF THEY ARE THE STRIPE OF SCOPE
00:50:07 OF WORK, THEY WILL --THE CENTERS WILL
00:50:10 BE APPLICABLE. BUT PRIOR
00:50:13 TO THEM GOING TO --EVEN IF IT'S
00:50:14 ADMINISTRATIVELY, IT WILL GO TO HOC
00:50:16 FOR JUST, LIKE, A REVIEW
00:50:18 AND IF IT'S A ADMINISTRATIVELY DONE, IT
00:50:19 WILL GO THROUGH
00:50:22 THEM AND THEN PROBABLY GET FINISHED
00:50:24 ADMINISTRATIVELY THROUGH STAFF, FOR EXAMPLE.
00:50:25 IF THEY INVOKE
00:50:27 A STATE LAW.
00:50:28 >> THANK YOU. EVERYTHING YOU
00:50:29 SAID, I HOPE IT'S
00:50:31 VERY EXPLICIT BOTH ON OUR INTERNET
00:50:32 AND
00:50:34 OUR ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, SHOW AND
00:50:36 TELL ON OUR WEBSITE OR THE PROCESS ITSELF
00:50:37 IN
00:50:40 APPLICATIONS OF WHERE THIS CAN AVAIL
00:50:41 THAT
00:50:43 SO IT'S CLEAR TO OUR PUBLIC AND APPLICANTS WHO ARE
00:50:46 COMING IN WHAT APPLIES AND WHAT
00:50:47 CAN THEY AVAIL THROUGH THIS. AND LAST, YOU
00:50:49 SAID PHASE ONE,
00:50:51 AND THAT YOU ARE CONTINUING TO GET -- WHAT IS THAT TIMEFRAME?
00:50:58 >> PHASE
00:51:01 TWO, CORRECT?
00:51:02 >> YEAH. WHAT ARE
00:51:04 WE DOING TODAY THAT BASICALLY EITHER SETS
00:51:06 THE BALL ROLLING FOR PHASE TWO, AND I
00:51:07 DON'T KNOW IF THE PHASE
00:51:10 TWO CAN IMPACT PHASE ONE. WHAT ARE WE
00:51:11 DOING TODAY?
00:51:13 IS OUR ACTION SUBJECT TO ANY OF THE
00:51:15 FEED BACK THAT WE WILL RECEIVE OR CONTINUOUSLY
00:51:17 RECEIVE, YOU
00:51:19 KNOW, OR CHANGE THAT --THE REVIEW
00:51:21 PROCESS WITH THE DESIGN STANDARD.
00:51:22 >> SO ANY FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED
00:51:23 FROM
00:51:25 THE COMMISSION, FROM THE STUDY SESSION
00:51:28 OR FROM THE PUBLIC IS BEING INCORPORATED
00:51:29 INTO
00:51:30 PHASE TWO. WE HAVE A SHEET FOR GAPS THAT
00:51:32 HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED.
00:51:34 THERE ARE A FEW GAPS IN THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS
00:51:36 IDENTIFIED, MAINLY ON APPLICABILITY
00:51:38 JUST BECAUSE OF HOW YOU
00:51:41 MENTIONED EXPLICITLY. SO
00:51:44 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF
00:51:46 HAS WROTE DOWN AND WILL BE, FOR EXAMPLE,
00:51:47 LIKE,
00:51:48 MULTIPLEXES, TECHNICALLY AS DESIGNED ON
00:51:53 THESE
00:51:55 THREE DEFINITION, MULTIPLEXES ARE -- IF THEY DON'T MEET THE
00:51:57 STYLE MAY BE EXCLUDED. BUT BECAUSE
00:51:59 THE CITY'S PRECISE PLANS DON'T HAVE
00:52:02 ANY OBJECTIVE STANDARDS ON
00:52:05 MULTIPLEXES, STAFF WASN'T ABLE TO GRAB ANY
00:52:07 FOR PHASE ONE. PHASE TWO, THAT'S WHERE THE
00:52:08 PUSH WILL BE.
00:52:11 THE INTENT IS TO DESIGN SCOPES THAT
00:52:13 ARE PREDOMINANTLY PROPOSED BY DEVELOPERS TODAY
00:52:14 IN
00:52:17 THE
00:52:18 CITY, THESE ARE THE THREE THAT STAFF
00:52:19 HAS IDENTIFIED.
00:52:20 >> ONE LAST CLARIFICATION.
00:52:21 I PROMISE
00:52:22 I'LL SHUT UP AFTER THAT. NOT FOR THE REST OF
00:52:23 THE MEETING.
00:52:26 BUT THE IDEA THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING
00:52:28 SAYS RECOMMENDATION ON ADOPTION OF CITYWIDE
00:52:29 OBJECT
00:52:32 JEK STIFF DESIGN STANDARD FOR MULTIFAMILY
00:52:35 AND RESIDENTIAL. IN THIS WE ARE
00:52:37 NOT CALLING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
00:52:38 SUBJECT TO DESIGN STANDARDS,
00:52:41 ARE WE?
00:52:42 >> NO. >> MULTI-FAMILY
00:52:43 AND RESIDENTIAL MIXED-USE. WE USE
00:52:44 THE TERM RESIDENTIAL AS
00:52:47 TO DISTINGUISHED MIXED-
00:52:49 USE THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL
00:52:50 USES. THAT'S WHY THE TERM
00:52:53 RESIDENTIAL IS IN THE TITLE.
00:52:54 >>
00:52:56 IS TOWNHOMES MULTI FAMILY?
00:52:59 >> YES. >> OR RESIDENTIAL? >> MULTI
00:53:00 FAMILY.
00:53:01 >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTION FORCE
00:53:12 >> I AM
00:53:13 CURE AREAS AS TO HOW FREQUENTLY WE
00:53:15 ARE GOING TO REVIEW THESE
00:53:17 IN THE FUTURE AND IS THERE FLEXIBILITY
00:53:18 IN IT
00:53:19 FOR CHANGING TRANSIT AVAILABILITY
00:53:21 AND CONCEPTS
00:53:24 LIKE
00:53:27 ATON NOUS TAXIS AND THINGS TO
00:53:30 REPLACE THE NEED FOR
00:53:31 EXCESS PARKING. O.A.R. THERE IS SO
00:53:33 MANY
00:53:36 IMPACTS ON OUR ABILITY TO JUDGE
00:53:37 SUBJECTIVELY IF A DEVELOPMENT MERCEDES MEETS OUR GUIDELINES.
00:53:39 I'M HOPING THAT THERE ARE
00:53:42 WAYS WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND
00:53:44 REVIEW THIS AS THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE SITUATIONS CHANGE OVER
00:53:45 TIME.
00:53:47 SO ANYBODY HAVE A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE?
00:53:52 ON HOW TO REVISE AND REVIEW THESE?
00:54:00 >> I GUESS AT THIS
00:54:03 TIME FOR REVISION WOULD BE
00:54:05 PHASE TWO. SO ANYTHING THAT --ANY
00:54:06 GAPS THAT HAS
00:54:08 BEEN IDENTIFIED BY ANYBODY THAT'S SOMETHING
00:54:09 THE STAFF
00:54:10 WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AND THAT'S
00:54:12 WHERE WE BE GOING IN
00:54:15 FRONT OF AGAIN WHEN PHASE TWO DOES
00:54:17 GO IN FRONT OF THE COMMISSION AND CITY
00:54:19 COUNCIL, THAT'S A CHANCE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR -- TO HEAR THAT
00:54:21 AGAIN, ADJUSTMENT.
00:54:24 >> AND THEN, CHAIR,
00:54:26 IF I MAY, ADDITIONALLY, AFTER THAT,
00:54:27 JUST NORMAL MAINTENANCE OF OUR
00:54:29 CODE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOW THAT WE
00:54:30 HAVE A
00:54:33 NEW ADOPTED ZONING CODE THAT IS COMPREHENSIVE,
00:54:36 OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THAT UPDATED SO
00:54:37 YOU
00:54:39 HAVE ALREADY SEEN AN UPDATE FROM
00:54:42 OUR FIRST. YOU WILL BE SEEING ANOTHER
00:54:44 UPDATE COME SOON.
00:54:45 >> TWO UPDATES.
00:54:46 >> YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU HAVE
00:54:47 SEEN TWO CLEANUPS ALREADY. YOU WILL SEE ANOTHER ONE COMING
00:54:48 UP SOON.
00:54:51 SO AS WE IMPLEMENT IT AND
00:54:52 FIND THINGS WRONG, WE ARE KEEPING A
00:54:54 RUNNING LIST, WE ARE TRYING TO
00:54:57 BE MUCH BETTER ABOUT MAINTAINING IT AND MAKING IT
00:55:00 A VERY USABLE CODE. SO THIS IS
00:55:01 BEING ADOPT INTO OUR CODE. IT WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS
00:55:04 THIS WE CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN. SO STAFF
00:55:06 THAT ARE HERE NOW IT IS OUR GOAL
00:55:08 TO KEEP IT A MAINTAINED, USABLE CODE.
00:55:09 I CAN TELL YOU
00:55:11 THAT.
00:55:12 >> THERE IS SORT OF A PERIODIC
00:55:13 CHURNING. THERE IS ALSO THE
00:55:15 REACTIVE CHANGES TO STATE LAW.
00:55:16 >> THANK YOU.
00:55:17 >> YOU WILL BE HEARING ABOUT A COUPLE IN
00:55:18 A MINUTE WHERE WE ARE GOING
00:55:20 TO HAVE A MAKE A CHANGE TO OUR CODE.
00:55:24 AND WE RESPOND
00:55:27 AS WE CAN. IT'S FREQUENTLY
00:55:30 NOT AS BEST AS ONE WOULD LIKE FOR
00:55:33 REACTING TO TRANSIT. THE STATE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF
00:55:34 THAT FOR
00:55:35 US. IF YOU ARE NEAR TRANSIT, THERE
00:55:36 IS NO PARKING ANYMORE.
00:55:38 >> I UNDERSTAND. THE IDEA OF KNOCKOUTS
00:55:39 AND THE --
00:55:42 >> UNDERSTOOD. >> --
00:55:45 STREETS FOR AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES TO COME UP AND
00:55:46 PARK.
00:55:47 THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON.
00:55:48 IT'S NOT EVEN ON THE HORIZON.
00:55:50 THEY ARE RIGHT NEXT DOOR COMING THIS WAY.
00:55:54 SO, HOPEFULLY, WE CAN INSTALL
00:55:57 A MECHANISM IN OUR PLANNING
00:56:00 TO REVIEW THESE STANDARDS ON A
00:56:02 REGULAR BASIS, ALMOST A PART OF A
00:56:03 HEARTBEAT,
00:56:06 BECAUSE WHAT WAS THE LAST
00:56:08 TIME, FIVE, EIGHT YEARS AGO THAT WE SUBSTANTIALLY
00:56:09 UPDATED THESE?
00:56:12 >> WELL,
00:56:15 THE COMPREHENSIVE --ARE YOU TALKING
00:56:16 ABOUT
00:56:17 DESIGN STANDARDS?
00:56:18 >> YES. >> BECAUSE WE
00:56:19 HAVE THE
00:56:20 BEAUTIFUL SUBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT
00:56:21 WE WORKED FOR TEN
00:56:24 YEARS ON.
00:56:25 >> TEN YEARS, YAURCHLTS AND
00:56:27 NOW LARGELY UNENFORCEABLE. YEAH, I CAN
00:56:29 CHECK THE DATE. YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT,
00:56:30 FIVE, SIX
00:56:32 YEARS AGO.
00:56:33 >> LOOK WHERE WE WERE TEN YEARS
00:56:34 AGO, RIGHT? IT'S
00:56:35 KIND OF A WHOLE DIFFERENT EVERYTHING
00:56:36 RIGHT NOW.
00:56:37 >> YES. >> AND WHERE
00:56:38 ARE WE GOING TO BE TEN YEARS FROM NOW
00:56:39 IS GOING TO BE
00:56:43 EVEN MORE MAGICAL. SO IF
00:56:45 WE GET AN EVERY TWO-YEAR OR SOMETHING
00:56:48 HEARTBEAT INTO THE PROCESS, THEN YOU'RE
00:56:49 NOT CAUGHT OFF GUARD
00:56:51 SO DRAMATICALLY AND DEVELOPERS AREN'T CORNERED INTO
00:56:52 VARIANCES FOR EVERYTHING.
00:56:54 SO AWESOME. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.
00:56:57 THAT'S IT. FEEDBACK MORE THAN A QUESTION.
00:57:01 >> ANY QUESTIONS?
00:57:08 GOOD? OKAY. SHALL WE OPEN IT UP TO THE
00:57:10 PUBLIC?
00:57:16 >> WE HAVE MARY
00:57:17 GRISTLE.
00:57:18 >> GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I'D
00:57:19 LIKE TO, BEFORE I START
00:57:22 AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO SAY ONE
00:57:25 SIMPLE LITTLE STATEMENT HERE, AND IT IS
00:57:28 THAT OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS
00:57:31 WAS INTRODUCED TO THE CITY --
00:57:32 I AM THE CO-CHAIR OR THE CHAIR OF
00:57:37 RECLAIMING OUR
00:57:40 DOWNTOWN. IT IS ONE OF THE MOST
00:57:41 PROUDEST THINGS THAT I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT
00:57:43 THIS GROUP IS WE HAVE
00:57:46 INTRODUCED
00:57:47 REAL PROGRESS FOR THE CITY IN THIS RESPECT.
00:57:59 OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS ARE NOT
00:58:01 A TECHNICAL DETAIL.
00:58:02 THEY ARE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
00:58:03 TOOLS A CITY HAS TO PROTECT LOCAL CONTROL.
00:58:07 WHEN STANDARDS ARE
00:58:09 CLEAR, MEASURABLE, AND ADOPTED IN
00:58:11 ADVANCE, EVERYONE KNOWS THE RULES.
00:58:13 RESIDENTS,
00:58:15 PLANNERS, DEVELOPERS, PROJECTS ARE REVIEWED FAIRLY,
00:58:16 TRANSPARENTLY, AND LOCALLY.
00:58:19 DECISIONS ARE MADE HERE, NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
00:58:25 WHEN WE DON'T HAVE
00:58:28 OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, WE
00:58:31 LOSE THAT CONTROL. A REAL EXAMPLE
00:58:34 IS THE SHOPPING CENTER. BECAUSE THE
00:58:37 CITY LACKED CLEAR OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS AT
00:58:39 THE TIME, THE DEVELOPER WAS ABLE TO BYPASS
00:58:40 LOCAL REVIEW
00:58:43 AND GO DIRECTLY TO THE
00:58:46 STATE. AS A RESULT,
00:58:48 THE PROJECT WAS --YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO EXCUSE
00:58:49 ME.
00:58:51 I'M HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY THROAT.
00:58:52 SO IF I START COUGHING, I WILL
00:58:55 HAVE TO STOP.
00:58:58 AND NOW WE ARE LEFT WITH A
00:59:01 DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE NEIGHBORHOOD
00:59:02 SERVING RETAIL ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
00:59:04 IT'S A WHOLE NEW BALL GAME.
00:59:08 THAT OUTCOME DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE RESIDENTS
00:59:10 DIDN'T CARE. IT HAPPENED
00:59:11 BECAUSE THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE STRONG OBJECTIVE
00:59:13 DESIGN STANDARDS IN PLACE.
00:59:17 OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS KEEP DECISION-MAKING LOCAL --
00:59:24 >> KEEP ON GOING. >> THEY PREVENT END
00:59:25 RUNS TO THE
00:59:27 STATE, PROTECT MIXED USE GOALS LIKE
00:59:28 RETAIL
00:59:30 OF STREET VALUE, REDUCE CONFLICT,
00:59:31 LAWSUITS,
00:59:34 AND UNCERTAINTY, ENSURE GROWTH, ALLIANCE WITH THE
00:59:37 COMMUNITY'S ADOPTED PLANS. IF WE
00:59:40 WANT HOUSING AND
00:59:41 WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS, PRESERVATION
00:59:43 AND
00:59:45 PROGRESS, THEN WE MUST SET THE RULES BEFORE PROJECTS COME IN,
00:59:46 NOT AFTER.
00:59:49 THIS IS ABOUT LEARNING
00:59:52 FROM EXPERIENCE AND MAKING SURE WE
00:59:53 DON'T REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN.
00:59:55 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
00:59:56 >> THANK YOU.
00:59:58 >> ANYONE ELSE?
01:00:04 >> WE TO NOT
01:00:05 HAVE ANYONE ELSE REQUESTING TO SPEAK.
01:00:06 >> MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. >> SECOND.
01:00:12 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
01:00:25 >> GO AHEAD AND CAST
01:00:26 YOUR VOTE, PLEASE, TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
01:00:28 THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSED.
01:00:37 >> ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY MAKE A MOTION?
01:00:40 >> I WILL MAKE COMMENTS. I WANT
01:00:43 TO ACKNOWLEDGE EVERYTHING
01:00:46 THAT OUR CITY STEWARD, MARY GRISTLE
01:00:47 SAID, WITH
01:00:48 THE SENTIMENTS, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS WAS FOR THE DOWNTOWN
01:00:49 AT LEAST WE SAW IT HERE AT THE COMMISSION.
01:00:54 THE REFERENCE TO THE DESIGN STANDARD
01:00:55 ALMOST AS A
01:00:58 PLAYBOOK THAT GUIDED OUR --
01:01:01 THIS FUTURE LEVEL REQUIREMENT. OF COURSE, THE
01:01:04 STATE ASKED US TO DO IT. SO THERE IS
01:01:05 NO DOUBT WE ARE
01:01:07 DRIVEN ON BOTH SIDES. I ONLY WANT
01:01:08 TO
01:01:09 ENSURE, LIKE, COMMISSIONER SALEME
01:01:11 SAID, THAT WE
01:01:14 ARE FLEXIBLE AND WE ARE NOT
01:01:17 AGAIN DEADLOCKED IN
01:01:20 A FEW YEARS. OUR
01:01:22 CITY AUTOMATION OF CITY LIGHTS, OUR
01:01:23 PEDESTRIAN
01:01:24 WALKABILITY, OUR ABILITY FOR SPECIAL
01:01:26 AND INCLUSIVE NEEDS TO
01:01:29 BE ACCOMMODATED IN
01:01:32 OUR DESIGN STANDARDS, HOW ARE
01:01:35 OUR SIGNAGE IS,
01:01:38 HOW RESPONSIVE WE ARE FOR FIRST
01:01:40 RESPONSES FIRST RESPONDERS, EVERYTHING ARE
01:01:44 IMPORTANT WHEN HE TAKE BECAUSE
01:01:45 ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WE WILL LOSE
01:01:47 WITH THIS DESIGN STANDARDS, PLANNING COMMISSION TOOK
01:01:49 FEEDBACK ON LARGE HOUSING PROJECTS.
01:01:50 SO WE CAN
01:01:52 SAY GOOD LUCK, CONTINUE TO BE OUR
01:01:54 STEWARDS, CITY STAFF, WE LOOK TO YOU.
01:01:56 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:02:04 INVITE COMMISSIONER CHERUKURU TO MAKE THE
01:02:05 MOTION
01:02:06 BECAUSE HAS THE WORDING HANDY AND I DON'T.
01:02:08 >> OKAY. >> WE GOT IT T. THANK YOU.
01:02:14 >> I MOVE TO RECOMMEND THAT THE
01:02:16 CITY COUNCIL DETERMINE THE PROJECT TO
01:02:20 BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
01:02:23 JANUARY 31 ADDENDUM
01:02:26 FOR THE 2023 HOUSING ELEMENT PURSUANT TO
01:02:27 CEQA.
01:02:29 >> THANK YOU. I'LL SECOND THAT.
01:02:38 >> THE
01:02:41 MOTION WAS MADE BY KMIGZ
01:02:42 CHAIR CHURCHILL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER
01:02:44 SALEME TO
01:02:46 APPROVE THE STAFF EMTS. GO AHEAD AND
01:02:47 CAST YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.
01:02:50 VERY GOOD. THE MOTION PASSED.
01:02:53 >> SECOND MOTION. RECOMMEND THAT
01:02:56 THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT
01:02:59 THE CITYWIDE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS ORDINANCE,
01:03:02 PHASE ONE.
01:03:05 -THE PHASE ONE.
01:03:08 THERE IS A PHASE TWO,
01:03:10 APPARENTLY. OKAY. BUT I'LL STICK TO
01:03:11 THE LANGUAGE HERE.
01:03:13 JUST KNOW THAT WE ARE ONLY LOOKING
01:03:14 AT PHASE ONE OF THIS CITYWIDE OBJECTIVE DESIGN
01:03:18 STANDARDS ORDINANCE.
01:03:19 >> SECOND.
01:03:30 >>
01:03:33 MOTION NEED BY
01:03:36 CHEESECAKE FACTORY,
01:03:38 SECONDED BY CHAIR SALEME. AHEAD AND CAST YOUR VOTE,
01:03:39 PLEASE. THE MOTION PASSED.
01:03:42 THANK YOU.
01:03:45 >> OKAY.
01:03:48 SO LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
01:03:51 FANTASTIC
01:03:54 ITEM NUMBER 4, STUDY SESSION
01:03:55 2025 STATE HOUSING LEGISLATION UPDATE.
01:04:00 DO WE NEED SOME TIME?
01:04:02 WE NEED A BREAK FOR FIVE MINUTES?
01:04:06 DOES ANYBODY NEED A BREAK?
01:04:09 ARE WE GOOD? OKAY. LET'S GO.
01:04:21 >> SO I MISSED IT.
01:04:24 WE ARE BREAKING OR?
01:04:28 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> NO, YOU DON'T HAVE
01:04:30 PERMISSION. COME BACK.
01:04:35 WE ARE IN RESNES JUST GIVE HER A FEW MINUTES.
01:04:36 LET'S JUST
01:04:38 TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK.
01:04:39 >> WE ARE
01:04:40 GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE BREAK THEN?
01:04:41 >> YES, PLEASE.
01:04:42 >> THANK YOU.
01:04:47 >> OKAY.
01:04:50 GOOD
01:04:52 EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS. PLASTIC BAGS.
01:04:55 I'M THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY. I'M
01:04:56 DOING MY ANNUAL HOUSING LEGISLATION UPDATE.
01:05:02 AND
01:05:04 EVEN ' --WE ARE MERCIFULLY STARTING
01:05:07 AT 7:00 P.M., WHICH IS MUCH EARLIER THAN USUAL,
01:05:11 BUT I WILL
01:05:14 TRY NOT TO BE TOO --SO THERE
01:05:16 ARE A NUMBER OF LAWS THIS YEAR, OF COURSE.
01:05:17 IF I CAN GET THE SLIDE TO ADVANCE.
01:05:20 A COUPLE BIG NEW LAWS IN THE AREA OF CEQA.
01:05:26 SOME
01:05:29 CHANGES TO DENSITY
01:05:31 LAWS, PARTICULARLY AROUND TRAIN STATIONS.
01:05:32 SOME NEW LAWS ON PROCESSING ADU APPLICATIONS.
01:05:37 THERE WAS A SMATTERING OF LAWS DEALING WITH TEACHER AND STUDENT
01:05:38 HOUSING.
01:05:44 A FEW THINGS TO ENCOURAGE
01:05:47 STREAMLINING OF HOUSING
01:05:48 APPLICATIONS. AND FINALLY, DIRECTLY AFFECTS
01:05:49 YOU, SOME CHANGES TO THE BROWN ACT.
01:05:53 SO LET'S LEAP IN WITH CEQA.
01:05:59 THE BIG BUN THIS
01:06:02 YEAR, WHICH YOU PROBABLY MADER HEARD OF.
01:06:04 AB 130, A NEW EXEMPTION FOR INFILL HOUSING.
01:06:08 AND
01:06:10 THIS SAYS THAT ANY TIME YOU HAVE A
01:06:11 PARCEL THAT'S
01:06:13 20 ACRES OR LESS THAT'S CONSISTENT
01:06:14 WITH THE
01:06:17 GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING, SO YOU CAN'T REQUIRE A
01:06:20 REASON -- YOU CAN USE THIS EXEMPTION,
01:06:23 NO CEQA IS REQUIRED.
01:06:26 NOW, THIS
01:06:28 APPLIES TO SITES THAT ARE --WERE PREVIOUSLY
01:06:29 DEVELOPED
01:06:32 WITH AND ARE CURRENTLY
01:06:34 BORDERING URBAN USES, RESIDENTIAL
01:06:35 OR COMMERCIAL
01:06:37 OR PUBLIC INSTITUTION OR PUBLIC PARK OR
01:06:38 PARKING OR TRANSIT FACILITIES
01:06:41 OR RETAIL. SO JUST ABOUT
01:06:44 ANYTHING EXCEPT FARMLAND AND UNDEVELOPED
01:06:47 LAND. AND 75% OF THE USES ON THE PERIMETER HAVE
01:06:48 TO BE DEVELOPED
01:06:50 WITH URBAN
01:06:51 USES AS WELL. BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH
01:06:53 MUCH ALL
01:06:54 OF SANTA CLARA. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HARD
01:06:56 CONDITION TO MEET. THERE IS A MEN
01:06:58 MINUTE DENSETIVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE, 15 DWELLING
01:06:59 UNITS PER ACRE.
01:07:02 NOW, THERE ARE
01:07:04 A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS THAT HAVE TO
01:07:06 BE MET FOR DEVELOPER TO
01:07:07 USE THIS NEW EXEMPTION. THEY HAVE
01:07:09 TO MEET CERTAIN
01:07:11 LABOR REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEY ARE A
01:07:13 BIT WEAK. THERE IS PREVAILING WAGE
01:07:16 REQUIRED, BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE DOING 100% AFFORDABLE, WHICH IS
01:07:18 PRETTY RARE.
01:07:21 AND YOU STILL NEED --YOU
01:07:23 NEED A TRAINED WORK FORCE, BUT ONLY
01:07:26 FOR BUILDINGS THAT ARE 85 FEET HIGH,
01:07:27 WHICH
01:07:28 BASICALLY IS THE DISTINCT BETWEEN TYPE ONE AND
01:07:30 TYPE THREE
01:07:31 CONSTRUCTION. YOU ARE GOING TO NEED A TRAINED
01:07:32 WORK FORCE FOR THAT ANYWAY. SO THOSE ARE KIND OF WEAK SAUCE.
01:07:39 YOU CAN'T USE THIS EXEMPTION IF
01:07:40 THE SITE CONTAINS HISTORIC STRUCTURE
01:07:42 OR IF THE SITE
01:07:43 CONTAINS WETLANDS. YOU ALSO CAN'T USE
01:07:45 IT
01:07:46 IN HAZMAT SITES AND CERTAIN FLOOD ZONES
01:07:48 AND IN
01:07:50 CERTAIN EARTHQUAKE ZONES. IF THE PROJECT IS
01:07:51 WITHIN 500 FEET
01:07:54 OF A FREEWAY, THERE
01:07:55 ARE SPECIAL AIR FILTRATION REQUIREMENTS
01:07:57 AS WELL AS
01:07:58 REQUIREMENTS FOR CENTRALIZED HEATING
01:08:00 AND AIR-CONDITIONING, VENTILATION
01:08:02 AND CAN'T BE ANY BALLO CO-ANIES FACING
01:08:03 THE FREEWAY.
01:08:04 BUT YOU CAN PUT THE HOUSING RIGHT NEXT TO THE FREEWAY IF YOU
01:08:06 WANT.
01:08:09 AGAIN,
01:08:12 THIS APPLIES TO BOTH RESIDENTIAL
01:08:13 AND MIXED-USE PROJECTS WHERE AT LEAST
01:08:15 TWO-
01:08:16 THIRDS OF THE FLOOR AREA IS DEVOTED TO
01:08:18 THE RESIDENTIAL
01:08:21 USES. THE COMMERCIAL PART OF A
01:08:23 MIXED-USE PROJECT CANNOT INCLUDE A
01:08:24 HOTEL. NO PORTION CAN
01:08:26 BE DESIGNATED FOR A HOTEL OR MOTEL OR
01:08:30 BED AND BREAKFAST OR ANY OTHER
01:08:31 TRANSIENT LODGING. THE CITY HAS TO ENGAGE IN
01:08:33 TRIBAL
01:08:34 CONSULTATION PROCESS AND THE DEVELOPER
01:08:35 HAS TO PREPARE A PHASE ONE ENVIRONMENTAL
01:08:39 ASSESSMENT
01:08:42 THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THIS BILL ON
01:08:44 JUNE 30th, AND IT TOOK IMMEDIATE EFFECT.
01:08:45 MOST OF
01:08:48 THE OTHER BILLS I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT
01:08:50 TONIGHT TOOK AFFECT ON JANUARY 1,
01:08:51 2026.
01:08:53 >> THIS TOOK EFFECT ON JUNE 30. WITHIN
01:08:54 TWO WEEKS,
01:08:55 WE ALREADY HAD DEVELOPERS CONTACTING THE
01:08:57 ABOUT USING
01:09:00 THIS EXEMPTION. IT'S A BIG EXEMPTION.
01:09:01 IT
01:09:02 WILL HAVE VERY BROAD-ACATION. IT'S GOING
01:09:03 TO REDUCE
01:09:06 THE AMOUNT OF CEQA MITIGATION FOR
01:09:08 HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. IT'S GOING TO REDUCE THE
01:09:09 NUMBER OF PROJECTS
01:09:11 YOU SEE PROBABLY BECAUSE SO MANY PROJECTS
01:09:12 NOW ARE GOING
01:09:15 TO BE EXEMPTS FROM CEQA. THIS IS A LARGE CHANGE IN THE
01:09:18 LAW. I SHOULD
01:09:21 ALSO MENTION THAT AB
01:09:24 130 MADE SOME CHANGES TO --
01:09:27 WELL, IT'S A LONG BILL.
01:09:28 MOST IS NOT THAT RELEVANT TO YOU SHOULD MENTION
01:09:30 CHANGES TO THE LAWS ON
01:09:31 BUILDING CODES. EVERY THREE YEARS AS
01:09:33 YOU MAY BE AWARE WE UPDATE OUR BUILDING
01:09:35 CODE. THERE IS NO NEW STATE BUILDING
01:09:36 CODE THAT GOES INTO EFFECT
01:09:39 AND WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO ADOPT
01:09:41 LOCAL AMENDMENTS EVER THREE YEARS AND WE DO
01:09:42 THAT.
01:09:45 TYPICALLY SOME THINGS TO
01:09:48 INCREASE FIRE SAFETY AND MORE
01:09:50 SPECIFICALLY TO ADOPT OUR REACH CODE,
01:09:51 PART OF OUR THREE-
01:09:54 YEAR BUILDING
01:09:56 CODE PROCESS. BUT DEVELOPERS SAID, WELL,
01:09:57 IT'S
01:10:00 SO HARD FOR US TO ADAPT TO LOCAL
01:10:02 CHANGES, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY CAN'T
01:10:05 DEAL WITH ALL THESE LOCAL CHANGES
01:10:06 DIFFERENT BETWEEN JURISDICTIONS. THE
01:10:09 LEGISLATURE SAID OKAY. SO THIS FREEZES BUILDING CODES.
01:10:12 WE CANNOT MAKE ANY LOCAL CHANGES
01:10:14 TO BUILDING CODES BETWEEN OCTOBER
01:10:15 OF
01:10:18 2025 AND JUNE OF 2031. NOW, THERE ARE
01:10:19 CERTAIN
01:10:21 IMPORTANTLY, THERE IS AN EXCEPTION
01:10:22 THE
01:10:23 LAST BULLET POINT THERE WHEN IT'S
01:10:24 NECESSARY
01:10:27 TO IMPLEMENT A GENERAL PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED
01:10:30 PRIOR TO JUNE OF 2025 TO INCENTIVIZE
01:10:31 ALL
01:10:32 ELECTRIC CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT EXCEPTION
01:10:33 FOR US BECAUSE AS
01:10:36 YOU MAY BE AWARE, WE HAD TO SUSPEND THE
01:10:37 PORTION OF
01:10:39 OUR REACH CODE THAT REQUIRED ALL ELECTRIC
01:10:40 CONSTRUCTION
01:10:41 AS A RESULT OF SOME FEDERAL LEGISLATION.
01:10:42 SO WE ARE WORKING
01:10:44 ON A REPLACEMENT FOR THAT WHICH I
01:10:45 BELIEVE OUR
01:10:48 NEW SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER WILL BE BRINGING
01:10:51 FORWARD FAIRLY SOON THAT IS MORE OF
01:10:52 A --
01:10:54 IT'S LIKE AN INCENTIVE BUDGET TO GET
01:10:58 PEOPLE TO USE ALL-ELECTRIC
01:10:59 RATHER THAN PROHIBITING NATURAL GAS.
01:11:01 LUCKILY, WE WILL BE ABLE
01:11:04 TO DO AT LEAST THAT. BUT
01:11:06 OTHER TWEAKS THAT WOULD AFFECT RESIDENTIAL USES WE CAN'T
01:11:07 DO UNTIL 2031.
01:11:13 THAT IS ALL ON THAT BILL. I
01:11:14 HAVE MORE CEQA BILLS, BUT I SEE A
01:11:16 HAND. SO
01:11:19 MAYBE WE SHOULD JUMP IN WITH OUR
01:11:21 FIRST --
01:11:22 >> THANK YOU. WAS GOING TO
01:11:23 ASK
01:11:24 IN CONTEXT, A QUESTION. SO GIVEN THE
01:11:25 INFILL
01:11:28 LAW, THAT --ARE
01:11:30 THERE PROVISIONS TO KEEP INFRASTRUCTURE UPDATED
01:11:32 TO MANAGE THE INFIM BECAUSE ARE WE GOING
01:11:34 TO HAVE SEWER,
01:11:37 POWER
01:11:40 , INTERNET, WHATEVER. ALL
01:11:43 THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS
01:11:44 DIDN'T NECESSARILY CONSIDER THE INFILL
01:11:46 PROJECT AS A SEPARATE ENTITY.
01:11:47 HOW DO THEY BRING THAT INTO EXISTENCE?
01:11:52 >>
01:11:55 WELL, WHAT IT MEANS IS WE WON'T BE
01:11:56 ABLE TO
01:11:57 GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED
01:11:58 THROUGH THE
01:12:01 CEQA PROCESS. SO FREQUENTLY YOU'LL
01:12:04 BE ABLE TO ANALYZE WHAT SORT OF INFRASTRUCTURE YOU NEED BY DOING
01:12:07 AN ANALYSIS UNDER CEQA.
01:12:09 BUT YOU STILL NEED TO HAVE ENOUGH
01:12:11 POWER BEFORE YOU CAN BUILD YOUR BUILDING.
01:12:13 SO THAT'S WHY WE DON'T
01:12:15 HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVERY DATA CENTER THAT
01:12:18 WANTS TO BUILD, WHY THEY HAVEN'T BROKEN
01:12:19 GROUND
01:12:21 YET, THEY NEED A WILL SERVE LETTER FROM
01:12:22 SVP BEFORE
01:12:24 THAT CAN HAPPEN. SO THE ANALYSES WILL STILL BE
01:12:25 DONE
01:12:27 TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE WATER
01:12:30 FLOW, THAT THERE WILL BE SUFFICIENT FIRE SERVICE.
01:12:31 THAT
01:12:33 HAS TO BE DONE AS A PART OF THE PROCESS.
01:12:34 IF IT'S OF
01:12:36 A CERTAIN SIZE, THEY STILL HAVE TO A WATER
01:12:37 SUPPLY ASSESSMENT EVEN THOUGH THEY
01:12:39 DON'T HAVE TO DO A CEQA DOCUMENT.
01:12:40 SO IT DOESN'T GET YOU OUT OF ALL
01:12:41 OF YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS.
01:12:46 BUT IN SOME WAYS IT MAKES IT MORE
01:12:48 CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
01:12:49 THE VEHICLE OF THE
01:12:51 CEQA DOCUMENT FOR A LOT OF THOSE STUDIES.
01:12:52 >> BECAUSE I COULD IMAGINE
01:12:55 WE WOULDN'T HAVE A WATER DROP OR A
01:12:58 SEWAGE TAP OR ALL OF THE NORMAL
01:13:01 THINGS YOU WOULD HAVE ON A SINGLE
01:13:02 PROPERTY WHEN YOU'RE
01:13:04 DOING INFILL, THAT'S A SEPARATE PROPERTY, THEREFORE, EVERYTHING
01:13:05 HAS TO BE DUPLICATED FOR THAT INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY.
01:13:10 AND NONE OF THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE
01:13:13 COMPONENTS ARE GOING TO BE --
01:13:16 EVER HAVE BEEN DESIGNED FOR AN INFILL PROJECT.
01:13:17 THEY
01:13:18 ARE DESIGNED FOR THE SUBSEQUENT INDIVIDUAL PLOTS
01:13:19 THAT ARE AROUND
01:13:22 THEM, RIGHT?
01:13:23 >> PRESUMABLY, I MEAN,
01:13:24 ONE IMPORTANT THING IS YOU DO HAVE
01:13:25 TO BE
01:13:27 CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
01:13:28 SO --
01:13:29 >> SORRY.
01:13:31 SO, IN THEORY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS --
01:13:34 THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS
01:13:36 CONTEMPLATED BY THE GENERAL PLAN EVEN
01:13:37 IF IT'S --
01:13:39 AT A DENSITY, CONTEMPLATED BY THE GENERAL
01:13:40 PLAN EVEN IF
01:13:43 IT'S EXEMPT
01:13:46 FROM CEQA.
01:13:47 >> OKAY.
01:13:49 >>
01:13:53 SO
01:13:55 COMMISSIONER CRUTCHLOW?
01:13:56 >> WE JUST
01:14:01 ADOPTED THE DESIGN STANDARDS.
01:14:02 >> MADE A RECOMMENDATION.
01:14:03 >> IS THIS INFILL HOUSING WILL
01:14:04 BE SUBJECTIVE TO THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS?
01:14:07 >> YES, PRESUMING THEY GET THEIR APPLICATION
01:14:08 IN AFTER THE
01:14:11 STANDARDS GO INTO EFFECT.
01:14:14 AND MOST
01:14:16 AFFORDABLE PROJECTS, MOST PRODUCTS
01:14:17 HAVE THE ABILITY TO
01:14:19 REQUEST WAIVERS TO CERTAIN STANDARDS.
01:14:20 BUT AT
01:14:21 LEAST ON PAPER THEY SHOULD COMPLY
01:14:23 WITH THOSE
01:14:25 STANDARDS AND WE HAD FIGHT WITH THE DEVELOPERS AS
01:14:26 TO
01:14:27 WHICH STANDARDS THEY HAVE TO COMPLY
01:14:29 WITH IF THEY TRY TO GET OUT OF SOME
01:14:32 OF THEM.
01:14:33 >> WHEN WE SAY
01:14:35 15 DENSITY UNITS PER ACRE, YEAH.
01:14:41 HOW MANY OF OUR CURRENT PROJECTS ARE
01:14:42 ANTICIPATED HOUSING PROJECTS WILL
01:14:44 BE SUBJECT TO
01:14:45 THAT, RELATED --OR ANY OF THOSE --
01:14:46 >> MOST OF THEM. I MEAN, THAT'S THE FLOOR.
01:14:50 I MEAN, THEY WILL HAVE TO
01:14:52 COMPLY WITH WHATEVER THE FLOOR IS
01:14:53 IN OUR CODE AND MOST ZONES START
01:14:56 WAY HIGHER THAN THAT. BUT THAT'S
01:14:57 THE MINIMUM YOU NEED TO TRIGGER AB 130.
01:15:03 >> THANK YOU. WHAT'S THE TIME THE CITY WOULD
01:15:05 IMPLEMENT?
01:15:08 >> THE SHOT CLOCK FOR?
01:15:11 >> THIS IS SUBJECT TO A SHOT
01:15:13 CLOCK, LIKE YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THIS
01:15:14 PROJECT WITHIN
01:15:17 A CERTAIN PERIOD IF NOT --
01:15:18 >> IF IT'S A PROJECT THAT'S EXEMPT
01:15:19 FROM CEQA UNDER THIS STANDARD, IT
01:15:20 WOULD BE
01:15:21 SUBJECT TO STANDARD PERMIT STREAMLINING
01:15:23 ACT
01:15:26 PROVISIONS, WHICH WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME
01:15:28 TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE APPLICATION IS
01:15:31 COMPLETE. 30 DAYS?
01:15:32 >> IS ZMEET. >> ONCE
01:15:33 THE COMPLETENESS
01:15:34 DETERMINATION HAS BEEN MADE, I'M GUESSING 60 DAYS TO COMPLETION.
01:15:35 YES.
01:15:41 WITHOUT LOOKING IT UP, I BELIEVE 60
01:15:42 DAYS
01:15:44 IS THE RELEVANT -- 30 AND THEN 60, THE
01:15:47 ASSISTANT DIRECTOR --
01:15:48 >>
01:15:49 THIS WOULDN'T GO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE
01:15:50 REVIEW PROCESS,
01:15:52 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW PROCESS?
01:15:53 >> THE
01:15:54 WAY OUR CODE
01:15:56 IS CURRENTLY DRAFTED, WE STILL
01:15:59 SEND
01:16:02 MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS TO ARCHITECTURE
01:16:05 REVIEW HEARING. WE HAVE HAD
01:16:07 INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS AS TO WHETHER OR
01:16:08 NOT THAT IS
01:16:11 A WORTHWHILE ACTION BECAUSE ALL
01:16:13 THAT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW OFFICER
01:16:14 CAN DO IS SAY YES, IT
01:16:17 MEETS THE STANDARDS OR, NO, IT
01:16:18 DOESN'T MEET THE STANDARDS. THEY CAN'T
01:16:20 SAY, YOU KNOW,
01:16:22 I FEEL THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY
01:16:23 ISN'T MET HERE. PEOPLE COME AND TESTIFY.
01:16:24 WHAT CAN YOU DO?
01:16:26 ALL YOU CAN
01:16:28 DO IS RECEIVE THAT TESTIMONY AND THEN IGNORE IT.
01:16:32 SO YES, THE
01:16:34 WAY THE CODE IS CURRENTLY DRAFTED
01:16:36 IT GOES TO
01:16:39 DO
01:16:40 ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BUT IT'S KIND OF A FOOL'S I AM
01:16:42 SORRY TO SAY. WE
01:16:44 MAY WANT TO CHANGE THAT.
01:16:45 >> ASSUMING WE
01:16:46 WILL
01:16:47 CHANGE, BECAUSE IT'S DIRECTLY LIKE
01:16:48 SAYING THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WHAT
01:16:49 DOES IT MEAN, IS THERE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION ASSOCIATED WITH
01:16:51 THIS?
01:16:54 >> FOR --
01:16:55 >> THIS KIND OF A LARGE PROJECT, HOW DO
01:16:58 THE NEIGHBORS KNOW?
01:16:59 >> THEY WOULD
01:17:00 GET NOTICE OF THE
01:17:02 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW HEARING, WHICH -- AND YOU DO
01:17:06 HAVE TO FILE A NOTICE OF EXEMPTION IF
01:17:08 YOU'RE USING THIS.
01:17:09 >> BUT HOW DO THE
01:17:10 NEIGHBORS KNOW THERE
01:17:11 IS GOING TO BE A MULTIPLEX COMING
01:17:12 UP?
01:17:13 >> WE
01:17:15 DO NOT HAVE A
01:17:16 MECHANISM CURRENTLY THAT WOULD INFORM --
01:17:17 >> YOU'RE WELCOME. I ASKED THE QUESTION.
01:17:21 >> THAT BEING SAID, THE NEIGHBORS DON'T HAVE A LOT OF
01:17:24 OPTIONS EITHER TO STOP IT.
01:17:30 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> MIC?
01:17:31 >> WOULD A NOTICE OF DEVELOPMENT NOT
01:17:33 BE, LIKE,
01:17:35 THE REQUIREMENT? ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT OR
01:17:36 PROPERTY,
01:17:38 LIKE, IS THAT NOT SOMETHING HE DO IN OUR CITY
01:17:39 WHERE
01:17:41 YOU HAVE A NOTICE OF DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCEMENT?
01:17:43 I HAVE A COMPLAINT. THERE IS A LOT
01:17:45 OF NOISE. ASBESTOS. WHO
01:17:47 DO I GO TO?
01:17:48 >> CURRENTLY, WHEN SOMETHING IS
01:17:49 SET
01:17:50 FOR OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW HEARING, YES, WE
01:17:51 HAVE NOTICING REQUIREMENTS.
01:17:53 THERE IS A SIGN THAT GETS POSTED ON THE
01:17:54 SITE.
01:17:56 BUT AS THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
01:17:57 MENTIONED, IF WE REMOVE THAT FROM THE CODE
01:18:00 BECAUSE
01:18:03 THERE'S NO POINT IN IT, THERE IS NOTHING REALLY WE
01:18:05 CAN DO --
01:18:06 >> TRYING TO DEBUNK THERE
01:18:09 IS
01:18:10 A POINT TO IT T. THE POINT IS PUBLIC NOTIFICATION.
01:18:11 WE COULD KEEP THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION BECAUSE
01:18:12 IT'S
01:18:13 INFORMATIONAL, RIGHT?
01:18:14 >> EXACTLY.
01:18:15 >> YES, WE COULD KEEP THE PUBLIC NOTIFICATION
01:18:16 AS A
01:18:17 POINT OF INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC AND
01:18:18 NOTIFY THEM THIS THIS PROJECT IS HAPPENING
01:18:21 AND --
01:18:22 >> YEAH,
01:18:23 LET'S --
01:18:24 >> WHILE THERE'S -->> A POLICY OR A PRINCIPLE.
01:18:26 >> TO BE DONE ABOUT IT, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION FOR YOU.
01:18:30 >> SO IN THE
01:18:33 PUBLIC NOTIFICATION POLICY,
01:18:35 LET'S INCLUDE AB 130 PROJECTS WILL
01:18:36 BE NOTIFIED WITHIN
01:18:38 A CERTAIN RAID EYE. DOESN'T HAVE TO
01:18:39 BE --
01:18:40 >> YEAH, COULD
01:18:41 BE --
01:18:42 >> EXACTLY. SO LET'S STREAMLINE
01:18:43 THAT A
01:18:44 LITTLE MORE TO CAPTURE ANY CONCERNS -- WE ARE IN THE CITY.
01:18:50 >> PROJECTS [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> I AM
01:18:51 GOING TO PRETTY MUCH
01:18:54 TAKE A GUESS THAT EVEN THOUGH WE
01:18:56 DO --WHICH WE SHOULD, IT IS PROBABLY
01:18:57 GO
01:19:00 UNNOTICED UNTIL THE THEN
01:19:02 SOMEBODY'S GOING TO COMPLAIN, UNFORTUNATELY.
01:19:03 >>
01:19:04 THAT'S OKAY. AT LEAST WE HAVE COVERED OUR
01:19:06 BASES. YOU GOT
01:19:08 A NOTIFICATION.
01:19:09 >> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
01:19:10 AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHAT
01:19:12 I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS, OKAY, UNDER WHAT
01:19:13 CIRCUMSTANCES COULD,
01:19:14 YOU KNOW, EVEN THE CITY SAY, LOOK, WHAT YOU'RE DOING
01:19:15 IS
01:19:18 GOING TO
01:19:20 CAUSE THESE OTHER PROBLEMS. SIMILAR TO THAT
01:19:21 MY FAVORITE
01:19:22 BILL, WHAT WAS THAT? THE 2027 THING
01:19:27 ABOUT
01:19:32 HAVING --WHEN YOU HAD THE -- YOU HAVE
01:19:33 TO --YOU HAD
01:19:35 TRANSIT WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE AND SUCH LIKE
01:19:36 THAT,
01:19:37 THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD
01:19:39 ABOUT THE PARKING.
01:19:42 >> RIGHT.
01:19:45 >> AND I WAS ALWAYS -->> 2097. >>
01:19:48 2097, YEAH, MY FAVORITE. WE CAN GET AROUND IT
01:19:49 AND YOU ARE
01:19:50 LOOKING AT ME LIKE -- THAT'S OKAY.
01:19:55 HAS ANYTHING BEEN
01:19:58 SAID, ABOUT, LOOK, IF SOMEBODY TRIES TO USE
01:20:00 THAT EXEMPTION, THAT WE HAVE SOME MECHANISMS
01:20:01 TO
01:20:03 SAY, OKAY, IT DOES HAVE TO, YOU KNOW,
01:20:05 CONFORM TO CERTAIN THINGS. OTHERWISE,
01:20:06 IT CAUSES AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE NEIGHBORS OR ON
01:20:07 THE CITY?
01:20:12 >> YOU MEAN BASED ON THE SCALE OF THE
01:20:16 DEVELOPMENT?
01:20:17 >> BASED
01:20:18 ON WHATEVER. LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
01:20:19 NOISE, FOR EXAMPLE. I DON'T MEAN NOISE WHEN THEY DO
01:20:20 CONSTRUCTION,
01:20:22 BUT --
01:20:23 >> THEY WOULD
01:20:25 BE SUBJECT TO THE
01:20:28 CITY'S NOISE LIMITS IN OUR NOISE
01:20:30 ORDINANCE, BUT CONSTRUCTION NOISE IS
01:20:31 EXEMPTED.
01:20:32 >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
01:20:34 I'M SORRY. I AM USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
01:20:37 I AM WONDERING UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES DO WE HAVE
01:20:39 ANY KIND OF ABILITY TO SAY THIS IS A
01:20:40 BURDEN ON THE CITY FOR X REASON?
01:20:43 OR THE NEIGHBORS.
01:20:46 >> WELL, AGAIN, THIS HAS --
01:20:48 THIS IS FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE CONSISTENT
01:20:49 WITH THE DENSITY
01:20:51 IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE ZONING.
01:20:52 THIS IS
01:20:53 WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY SAID THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE
01:20:55 DENSITY FOR THIS SITE.
01:20:57 SO IF THEY START BUILDING, WE REALIZE,
01:20:58 MY
01:21:00 GOSH, THIS IS WAY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC AND
01:21:01 PEOPLE ALL
01:21:03 IN ONE SPOT, WE ALREADY BAKED THAT
01:21:04 WHEN WE SET
01:21:06 THAT ININ GENERAL PLAN. AND FRANKLY, WE HAVE
01:21:08 VERY LITTLE ABILITY TO DECREASE DENSITY
01:21:10 NOWADAYS.
01:21:12 >> YEAH, I MEAN, MY CONCERN THERE
01:21:13 WOULD BE,
01:21:16 LIKE, THE PARKING. I THINK I
01:21:18 HAVE ALREADY SEEN AREAS OF SANTA CLARA WHERE
01:21:19 EVERYBODY IS
01:21:21 PARKING ON THE STREET AND THE WIDTH OF THE
01:21:22 STREET HONESTLY IS NOT
01:21:24 APPROPRIATE FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES THROUGH THERE.
01:21:28 WITH ADUs
01:21:29 AND SUCH, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS, I
01:21:31 AM ASSUMING NO ONE IS GOING TO
01:21:33 HAVE PARKING. THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE KEY
01:21:34 ITEMS ON THAT -- OKAY.
01:21:40 GIVEN THAT WE WERE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE
01:21:41 THAT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ABILITY TO SAY WE DON'T
01:21:43 WANT YOU TO DO THIS?
01:21:44 >> CORRECT.
01:21:46 >> THANK YOU.
01:21:52 >> QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
01:21:53 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT RAISED MY CONCERN
01:21:55 IS, IT'S BEEN BUGGING ME
01:21:58 FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND I SEE
01:22:01 THAT THE AB 130 IS THE 500
01:22:04 FEET FROM A FREEWAY
01:22:07 DUE TO AIR POLLUTION. WELL, WE JUST
01:22:10 APPROVED 144 UNITS, I BELIEVE,
01:22:13 LESS THAN 500 FEET FROM
01:22:14 AN AIRPORT RUNWAY. THE POLLUTION THERE IS IMMENSE.
01:22:19 AND ACTUALLY YOU CAN ACTUALLY SMELL
01:22:22 IT, WHICH I BROUGHT IT UP. SO WHAT
01:22:24 ARE WE DOING ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS
01:22:25 IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE FOLLOW THE LAW HERE,
01:22:28 THIS
01:22:31 IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR --
01:22:33 YOU KNOW, YOU ARE OPENING YOURSELF UP FOR LAWSUITS AND SO
01:22:34 ON, I THINK.
01:22:40 >> I AM SORRY. IS YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY
01:22:42 ABOUT THE PROJECT NEAR THE AIRPORT OR
01:22:43 THE PROJECTS NEAR FREEWAYS?
01:22:46 >> NO. THE AIRPORT.
01:22:49 POLLUTION IS POLLUTION. ONE IS CARS AND
01:22:50 THE
01:22:51 OTHER IS AIRPLANES. THE AIRPLANES, THE
01:22:52 FUEL FROM
01:22:54 THE AIRPLANES IS MORE --HIGHER POLLUTION THAN THE AIR -- THAN
01:22:55 THE CARS.
01:23:02 >> WE USED TO ANALYZE AIR
01:23:05 QUALITY IMPACTS ON
01:23:08 RESIDENTS OF A RESIDENTIAL
01:23:09 DEVELOPMENT AS A PART OF THE CEQA
01:23:11 REVIEW
01:23:12 PROCESS. BUT SINCE THE SUPREME COURT
01:23:14 CASE A FEW YEARS AGO,
01:23:16 THAT'S NO LONGER CONSIDERED A CEQA IMPACT
01:23:18 BECAUSE IT'S CONSIDERED CEQA IN REVERSE.
01:23:20 >> WELL, THAT'S
01:23:22 ACTUALLY --THAT WAS A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
01:23:23 THAT
01:23:24 WAS NEVER HOUSING THERE. AND WE JUST STICK HOUSES IN
01:23:26 THERE.
01:23:29 AND THE REASON THAT WAS NEVER
01:23:30 HOMES THERE IS BECAUSE OF THE DANGER
01:23:32 AND THE POLLUTION AND THE
01:23:35 NOISE LEVEL. THAT'S WHY IT WAS
01:23:37 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
01:23:38 >> BUT WHAT I WAS --
01:23:39 JUST TO FINISH
01:23:41 MY THOUGHT, WE DO STILL
01:23:43 ANALYZE THOSE IMPACTS. THEY ARE JUST
01:23:44 NOT CONSIDERED
01:23:46 CEQA IMPACTS ANYMORE. WE CONSIDER
01:23:48 THEM MAXIMALLY EXPOSED INDIVIDUAL.
01:23:50 WE FIGURE OUT WHO HAS
01:23:52 THE GREATEST CANCER RICK. THERE IS USUALLY A HEALTH RISK
01:23:53 ANALYSIS.
01:23:56 THERE IS A LOT OF
01:23:59 TECHNICAL STUDIES THAT GO
01:24:00 INTO PUTTING HUMANS NEAR AIRPORTS AND
01:24:02 FREEWAYS.
01:24:05 SO I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT
01:24:08 MEASURES WE TOOK WITH RESPECT TO THAT
01:24:10 PROJECT, BUT I COULD CHECK THAT AND --
01:24:11 >> YEAH, CHECK THAT,
01:24:13 BECAUSE I BROUGHT THAT UP WHEN THE
01:24:14 GENTLEMAN MENTIONED IT, THAT
01:24:16 HE DID THE CEQA REPORT AND I BROUGHT THAT
01:24:17 UP, HE SAYS,
01:24:18 YOU DIDN'T GO THERE. IF YOU WOULD
01:24:20 HAVE GONE
01:24:22 THERE, YOU COULD STAND RIGHT WHERE
01:24:23 THE PARKING LOT
01:24:25 IS AND SMELL THE JET FUEL AND ON TOP
01:24:27 OF THAT ALL THE NOISE.
01:24:28 >> I REMEMBER YOU MAKING THAT
01:24:29 COMMENT, YES.
01:24:32 >> YEAH. >> YEAH. >> SO THAT REPORT
01:24:35 WAS BOGUS IN MY OPINION.
01:24:37 >> WELL, THE REPORT DPLIED WITH CEQA, AND THAT WAS THE RESPONSE
01:24:38 YOU GOT FROM THE CONSULTANT
01:24:41 THAT
01:24:43 WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE RES DENENTS,
01:24:44 IT'S NOT A CEQA
01:24:46 IMPACT I THINK WAS THE POINT HE WAS
01:24:47 TRYING TO MAKE. BUT I DON'T THINK THERE WAS NO
01:24:48 ANALYSIS.
01:24:53 BUT WE CAN ECONOMIC INTO THAN GET BACK TO
01:24:54 YOU.
01:24:55 >> HE SAID THERE WAS A STUDY DONE.
01:24:56 >> YEAH.
01:24:59 AND THIS IS THE WHOLE THING.
01:25:01 ARE YOU OPENING YOURSELF UP FOR A LAWSUIT
01:25:02 HAD THEY BUILT AND
01:25:05 SOMEBODY'S GOING TO START
01:25:06 GETTING SICK BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS THERE, THAT AIRPORT IS GOING
01:25:08 TO INCREASE. IT'S INCREASING AS IT IS RIGHT
01:25:11 NOW FOR THE PRIVATE JET SERVICE.
01:25:13 IT'S RIGHT THERE. LESS THAN 500 FEET AWAY.
01:25:20 >> WELL, ALL RIGHT. WE CAN'T
01:25:23 VISIT THAT, UNFORTUNATELY.
01:25:24 >> [ INAUDIBLE ].
01:25:26 >> OKAY. >> JUST TO
01:25:29 QUICKLY CONFIRM, THIS IS --
01:25:30 >> WHAT?
01:25:31 >>
01:25:32 AIRPORT LAND USE COMMISSION. ALUC.
01:25:33 >> WHAT ABOUT IT?
01:25:35 >> WOULD PROJECTS LIKE THIS,
01:25:38 ONE BY FREEWAY, WOULD THE --
01:25:41 GO TO THE --AGENCIES?
01:25:44 >> WE REFER GENERAL PLAN
01:25:46 AMENDMENTS TO THE AIRPORT LAND USE
01:25:47 COMMISSION FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE AIRPORT INFLUENCE
01:25:48 AREA.
01:25:50 THERE WOULD
01:25:53 BE NO GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ANY
01:25:56 PROJECT --
01:25:57 >> I STILL HAVE TO EVALUATE
01:25:58 HEIGHT AGAINST THE STANDARDS.
01:26:02 NO. YOU HAVE
01:26:04 HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS FOR PROJECTS TO BE REFRPD TO ALUC.
01:26:11 >> ONLY FOR PROJECTS IN THE AIA WHERE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT IS
01:26:12 INVOLVED.
01:26:17 THAT'S WHEN WE TO A FORMAL REFERRAL TO
01:26:20 THE ALUC. WE
01:26:23 DO DO INFORMAL CALLS TO THE ALUC REGULARLY.
01:26:25 BUT, YEAH, THE FORMAL PROCESS IS KIND OF A NARROW PATH.
01:26:29 AND IF
01:26:31 IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN ORDINARILY WE
01:26:32 WOULDN'T REFER IT.
01:26:40 ON TO THE NEXT. THIS IS BASICALLY
01:26:42 JUST A LAUNDRY
01:26:45 LIST OF --THERE ARE
01:26:47 A BUNCH OF NEW CEQA EXEMPTIONS, FYI.
01:26:48 FOR
01:26:50 WHATEVER REASON, THEY CREATED A SPECIAL
01:26:51 EXEMPTION FOR PROJECTS THAT CONSIST
01:26:54 OF A FACILITY FOR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, WHICH
01:26:57 IS
01:27:00 MICRO ELECTRONICS,
01:27:03 NANO ELECTRONICS, INCLUDING
01:27:05 SEMICONDUCTORS, AS WELL AS BIOTECHNOLOGY, SO-CALLED
01:27:06 SMART OR INTELLIGENT
01:27:09 MANUFACTURING SYSTEMS. THERE
01:27:12 IS ALSO AN EXEMPTION FOR
01:27:13 FRAUNLS THAT CONSIST OF A DAY CARE CENTER
01:27:15 THAT'S NOT IN A
01:27:16 RESIDENTIAL AREA. SO THEY ARE TRYING TO SPEED THE
01:27:18 APPROVAL OF THOSE.
01:27:21 AN EXEMPTION
01:27:22 FOR NONPROFIT FOOD BANKS OR PASSPORT
01:27:24 REESE. IF
01:27:27 THE PROJECT IS ON A SITE FOR
01:27:29 INDUSTRIAL USES. FEDERAL QUALIFIED HEALTH CLINICS
01:27:30 50,000 SQUARE FEET OR LESS.
01:27:35 EXEMPTIONS FOR HIGH-SPEED RAIL. WE
01:27:36 WON'T HAVE A
01:27:38 STATION IN SANTA CLARA, BUT EVENTUALLY WILL HAVE
01:27:39 TRAINS RUNNING THROUGH THE CITY.
01:27:45 ALSO, ZONINGS TO IMPLEMENT THE HOUSING
01:27:47 ELEMENT. THIS PROBABLY WON'T AFFECT
01:27:48 US IN THE SHORT RUN BECAUSE WE'VE
01:27:51 ACTUALLY ALREADY DONE ALL THE ZONINGS
01:27:54 NECESSARY
01:27:57 TO IMPLEMENT OUR HOUSING ELEMENT, BUT MAYBE
01:27:58 IN THE NEXT CYCLE. AND CERTAIN PARKS AND TRAIL
01:28:00 PROJECTS.
01:28:03 SB 131 ADDS TO THE LIST OF CEQA
01:28:06 EXEMPTIONS. THE MOST RELEVANT PART IS THIS.
01:28:09 IT'S A NEW NEAR MISS CEQA STREAMLINING
01:28:12 PROVISION. AND THIS SAYS THAT
01:28:13 FOR HOUSING PROJECTS THAT NARROWLY
01:28:15 FAIL TO
01:28:17 QUALIFY FOR A CEQA, EFRMS BASED ON ONE
01:28:18 CONDITION, NOW THEY ONLY HAVE TO ANALYZE THAT ONE
01:28:21 CONDITION. AND
01:28:24 INSTEAD THEY JUST HAVE TO DO A VERY
01:28:27 FOCUSED ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT. SO, FOR INSTANCE, THERE IS AN
01:28:30 INFILL EXCEPTION
01:28:33 SEPARATE FROM THE UNEARLIER
01:28:35 WHERE YOU CAN'T HAVE NOISE IMPACTS.
01:28:36 SO
01:28:39 SUPPOSE YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT WOULD
01:28:41 QUALIFIER THAT EXEMPTION EXCEPT IT'S GOING TO
01:28:42 BE NOISY. IN
01:28:43 THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, YOU COULD DO A FOCUSED ANALYSIS JUST ON
01:28:45 NOISE.
01:28:48 SIMILARLY, THERE IS A
01:28:51 GENERAL RULE YOU CAN'T USE ANY DAT
01:28:53 GORECAL EXEMPTION THAT WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT AN HISTORIC
01:28:54 PROPERTY.
01:28:57 SO IF THE ONLY THING HOLDING
01:29:00 YOU BACK FROM USING A CATEGORICAL
01:29:01 EXEMPTION IS THE
01:29:02 FACT THAT IS A PROPERTY IS HISTORIC,
01:29:03 YOU COULD
01:29:06 JUST ANALYZE THE IMPACT OF DEMOLISHING AN HISTORIC
01:29:09 STRUCTURE.
01:29:12 THERE IS ALSO A GENERAL RULE FOR
01:29:15 HAZMAT SITES. CAN'T USE IT ON
01:29:17 A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL SITES. IF THAT'S
01:29:18 YOUR ONE REASON, YOU
01:29:21 CAN DO A FOCUSED ANALYSIS ON HAS MATS.
01:29:24 THIS ONLY APPLIES WHEN YOU CAN'T USE
01:29:25 IT
01:29:27 BECAUSE OF ONE MISSING CONDITION.
01:29:29 IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE REASONS, THIS
01:29:30 RULE DOESN'T
01:29:33 APPLY. ALSO OIL AND GAS INFRASTRUCTURE.
01:29:37 IT ALSO WON'T APPLY IF A PROJECT
01:29:38 AFFECTS NATURAL AND PROTECTED LANDS.
01:29:40 THESE ARE LANDS THAT
01:29:43 ARE SUBJECT
01:29:45 EASEMENT OR IN THE VICINITY OF WETLANDS
01:29:46 OR
01:29:52 VERY HIGH
01:29:53 FIRE HAZARD ZONES. IT STREAMLINES CEQA BY, YOU KNOW
01:29:54 MARKSING IT POSSIBILITY FOR FOCUSED DOCUMENTS
01:29:57 AND WE HAVE ALREADY HAD SOME DEVELOPERS
01:29:58 ASKING
01:30:01 US ABOUT THE APPLICABILITY
01:30:04 OF SB 131.
01:30:05 >> EXCUSE MEME.
01:30:06 WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HAZMAT, I DIDN'T HEAR
01:30:07 YOU.
01:30:08 WHAT WAS THE HAZMAT STATEMENT?
01:30:09 >> RIGHT.
01:30:10 THERE IS
01:30:12 ABOUT 35 CATEGORICAL EXEMPTIONS, AND
01:30:15 EACH HAS LIKE RULES WITHIN EXEMPTIONS SAYING
01:30:16 WHEN IT
01:30:17 DOES AND DOESN'T APPLY. THERE IS A RULE
01:30:19 THAT SAYS, HEY,
01:30:22 YOU KNOW THOSE 35
01:30:25 EXEMPTIONS?
01:30:28 DON'T USE ANY
01:30:30 OF THEM IF ANY OF THESE FACTOR ARE PRESENT.
01:30:31 ONE AN HISTORIC PROPERTY. BUN ONE
01:30:32 IS
01:30:33 IT'S A HAZARDOUS MATERIAL SITE.
01:30:34 >>
01:30:35 OKAY. SO GOING THEN BACK TO ONE OF
01:30:37 YOUR ORIGINAL --YOU
01:30:38 TALKED ABOUT ADVANCED MANUFACTURING?
01:30:40 >> YES. >> WHAT'S
01:30:41 THE DEFINITION?
01:30:42 >> OF ADVANCED MANUFACTURING?
01:30:43 >> YES, PLEASE.
01:30:46 >> IT'S
01:30:49 COMPLICATED AND LONG AND I
01:30:52 ABBREVIATED IT. BUT MICRO
01:30:54 ELECTRONICS AND NANO ELECTRONICS,
01:30:58 INCLUDING SEMICONDUCTORS AS WELL AS
01:30:59 BIOTECHNOLOGY AND SMART OR INTELLIGENT MANUFACTURING
01:31:01 SYSTEMS.
01:31:03 THERE IS ABOUT FOUR OTHER THINGS IN THE
01:31:04 DEFINITION
01:31:06 I DIDN'T WRITE TOWN. I CAN PULL THEM
01:31:07 UP IF
01:31:10 YOU'D LIKE.
01:31:11 >> NO, THAT'S -- WE STILL HAVE A
01:31:13 FAB
01:31:16 IN THE BAY --SEVERAL FANS, INCLUDING
01:31:18 ONE IN SANTA CLARA. SO YOU ARE SAYING IF
01:31:19 SOMEBODY SAYS, I WANT
01:31:22 TO BUILD A FAB,
01:31:24 AND THAT OF COURSE ENTAILS A LOT OF
01:31:25 VERY NASTY CHEMICALS, THEY ARE
01:31:28 NOW EXEMPT FROM CEQA?
01:31:31 >>
01:31:33 THEY NOW MAY HAVE AN ARGUMENT THAT
01:31:34 THEY COULD USE
01:31:36 THE NEAR MISS EXEMPTION. I EXPECT
01:31:37 THAT THERE
01:31:39 WOULD BE MORE THAN ONE CONDITION THEY ARE
01:31:40 MISSING THOUGH.
01:31:41 >>
01:31:43 OKAY.
01:31:44 >> ULTIMATELY, IT IS THE CITY'S
01:31:45 DISCRETION ON WHETHER OR NOT TO ALLOW
01:31:46 THE USE OF
01:31:48 A CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION. THE CITY IS THE ONE THAT SAYS,
01:31:49 YOU KNOW WHAT?
01:31:52 YOU
01:31:55 ARE DOING AN M
01:31:58 AND ANYWAY. THERE IS A CHANCE OF
01:32:01 UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES HERE.
01:32:02 I DOUBT WE WILL JUST LET THEM --
01:32:03 >> IF IT
01:32:04 WAS ON A HAZMAT SITE, I
01:32:07 UNDERSTAND. IF THEY WENT A NICE PRISTINE
01:32:10 SITE AND THERE IS NO HAZMAT, WE
01:32:12 ARE GOING TO MAKE --
01:32:13 >> THAT'S THE POINT
01:32:14 OF THIS
01:32:16 EXEMPTION, TO ALLOW FOR THAT AND TAKE IT OUT
01:32:17 OF
01:32:19 TAIWAN, I THINK.
01:32:20 >> OKAY. YEAH, WE ARE GOING TO
01:32:21 POLLUTE
01:32:22 SOMEBODY ELSE'S PLACE. I
01:32:25 UNDERSTAND. NEAR MISS TRAFFIC STUDIES
01:32:27 PART OF THAT ONE ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO
01:32:28 BE STUED BECAUSE YOU
01:32:32 ARE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE 160,
01:32:34 WHATEVER PEAK TRIPS?
01:32:35 >> THAT'S THE THING THAT
01:32:38 TRIGGERS IT, YOU KNOW?
01:32:40 I MEAN, THAT'S, LIKE, THE CLASS 32
01:32:42 INFILL. ONE THE THINGS THEY CAN'T HAVE
01:32:44 TRAFFIC IMPACTS. SO IF THAT'S
01:32:46 YOUR CONCLUSION, YOU HAVE DONE A PRELIMINARY
01:32:48 TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND THAT'S THE AREA WHERE YOU
01:32:50 HAVE TRAFFIC IMPACT, THEN,
01:32:51 YEAH, THAT COULD BE THE ONE THING
01:32:52 YOU STUDY.
01:32:53 >> SO ARE WE REQUIRED THEN
01:32:54 THAT
01:32:55 THEY COME WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY ALREADY BUILT
01:32:56 IN LIKE
01:32:58 WITH THE APPLICATION? HOW DO WE KNOW THERE IS
01:32:59 NO TRAFFIC IMPACT?
01:33:02 >> THERE ARE CERTAIN
01:33:06 NUMERICAL THRESHOLDS BELOW WHICH WE
01:33:08 KNOW THERE IS UNLIKELY TO
01:33:10 BE A TRAFFIC IMPACT DEPENDING ON THE
01:33:11 TYPE
01:33:12 OF USE. WE HAVE DIFFERENT FORMULAS HOW
01:33:14 MUCH VMT A USE WILL CREATE.
01:33:20 AND
01:33:22 THEN AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU'VE GOT
01:33:23 TO
01:33:26 CONSULT TO PROVIDE INPUT
01:33:28 WHEN IT'S AMBIGUOUS.
01:33:29 >> BECAUSE USUALLY, ESPECIALLY
01:33:30 TRAFFIC
01:33:31 IMPACTS AND OF COURSE GAS AND THE --
01:33:34 WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE THE AIR -- AIR
01:33:36 QUALITY. WE HAVE USED STATEMENT OF
01:33:38 OVERRIDING EXEMPTIONS.
01:33:44 THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS --
01:33:45 >> YES. >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE
01:33:46 BEEN UNMITIGATABLE, LIKE CONSIDERED
01:33:47 NONMITIGATABLE.
01:33:48 >> YEAH.
01:33:50 >> IN THIS WE
01:33:53 DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT IS --
01:33:56 NEEDS MITIGATION OR DOES NOT.
01:33:57 >>
01:33:59 WELL,
01:34:05 THAT --RIGHT. YOU COULDN'T
01:34:07 GO --YOU COULDN'T GIVE THE APPROVAL
01:34:08 IF YOU WERE --
01:34:10 IF THAT WAS YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF
01:34:11 THE SITUATION, AT
01:34:14 THE END. ANALYSIS. YOU COULDN'T GRANT
01:34:16 A CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION NOT KNOWING WHETHER
01:34:17 THERE BE
01:34:19 ANY TRAFFIC IMPACT BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE
01:34:20 AN
01:34:22 UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT I THINK
01:34:23 WOULD
01:34:26 KICK YOU OUT OF USING A CAT EX.
01:34:29 CAT EK IS
01:34:31 SUPPOSED TO BE THINGS THAT USUALLY WON'T CAUSE AN
01:34:32 IMPACT. SOMETIMES THEY DO.
01:34:35 SO IF THERE IS A
01:34:38 REASONABLE ARGUMENT
01:34:39 TO BE MADE THAT IT WOULD GENERATE A TON
01:34:40 OF TRAFFIC, THEN WE ARE GOING TO DO
01:34:41 ANALYSIS.
01:34:42 >> OKAY. THANK YOU.
01:34:45 >> IT'S TRANSPORTATION, YES. THANK YOU.
01:34:47 YOU CAN SEE I'VE DONE THIS FOR A
01:34:50 WHIECHLT
01:34:59 .
01:35:00 >> SO I HAVE ONE THAT'S MORE OF
01:35:02 A HOMEWORK STUDY. LET'S TRY TO UNDERSTAND
01:35:04 ALSO WHAT NEW EXEMPTIONS ARE GOING
01:35:05 TO
01:35:08 HAPPEN IN THE CASE OF HEALTH AND
01:35:11 SAFETY, PARKING
01:35:14 ,
01:35:17 ALL THE HUMAN-RELATED ISSUES BECAUSE
01:35:21 WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING INTO
01:35:22 FULLY AUTONOMOUS MANUFACTURING. SO
01:35:23 THAT MEANS THERE WON'T BE ANYBODY IN
01:35:27 THE TAG RAES. IT'S JUST
01:35:28 GOING TO BE ROBOTS BUILDING STUFF.
01:35:30 IS THAT KIND
01:35:33 OF MANUFACTURING EVEN FURTHER
01:35:34 EXEMPT FROM THE CEQA STUDIES AND MANDATES
01:35:36 BECAUSE IT IS NOT BEING DONE BY
01:35:39 PEOPLE?
01:35:41 SO THAT'S KIND OF A QUESTION I COULDN'T
01:35:44 GET AN ANSWER TO, BUT IT'S A LITTLE
01:35:48 EARLY.
01:35:49 >> I THINK THAT'S WHAT
01:35:51 SB 131 IS ADDRESSING.
01:35:52 >> OKAY. I THINK IT'S ALLOWING
01:35:54 FOR THAT. LET ME PULL UP THE EXACT
01:35:55 LANGUAGE.
01:35:56 >> I SUSPECT THAT'S GOING TO BE
01:35:57 A BIG ISSUE, TOO,
01:35:58 FOR NOISE AND OTHER THINGS BECAUSE
01:36:00 THE
01:36:01 FACTORY DOESN'T HAVE TO RESPECT NOISE IF
01:36:03 IT'S NOT AFFECTING PEOPLE.
01:36:06 >> RIGHT.
01:36:07 WON'T HAVE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
01:36:08 >> WON'T HAVE ANY TRAFFIC IMPACT
01:36:09 BECAUSE THERE IS NO PEOPLE.
01:36:15 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> IT'S GOING
01:36:17 TO BE A BIG GIANT BLOCK SITTING IN THE MIDDLE
01:36:18 OF --
01:36:19 >> I THINK WE ARE NOT QUITE THERE YET.
01:36:21 BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE
01:36:22 SAYING.
01:36:23 >> WE ARE GETTING CLOSE. I HAVE SEEN --
01:36:24 >> EVEN DATA
01:36:26 CENTERS, VERY CLOSE, STILL HAVE PEOPLE WALKING
01:36:27 INSIDE THERE.
01:36:29 >> YEAH, BUT LIKE THE TESLA PLANT, I
01:36:30 DID A
01:36:32 TOUR OF IT, AND THEY ARE HAVING FEWER AND FEWER
01:36:33 PEOPLE. IT'S GOING TO
01:36:36 BE
01:36:39 ROBOTIC WITH OVERSEARS. AND EVEN THE
01:36:42 OVERSEARS NOW ARE GOING TO GET CONVERTED
01:36:43 TO AUTONOMOUS ROBOTS, WHICH ARE MANAGED
01:36:45 BY OVERSEERS IN THE CENTRAL
01:36:48 FACILITY. I DON'T WANT TO GO
01:36:51 INTO A FUTURE SCARE LESSON, BUT TOO
01:36:53 A LITTLE WORK AND YOU WILL SEE THAT
01:36:54 THIS IS
01:36:55 A CARE I HAVE FUTURE THAT WE ARE WORKING FUTURE.
01:36:57 IT'S INEVITABLE.
01:37:00 >> [ INAUDIBLE ].
01:37:03 >> YEAH. I AM WORRIED MORE THAT ALL THE
01:37:05 EXEMPTIONS WE ARE GRANTING THESE KINDS
01:37:07 OF FACILITIES ARE GOING
01:37:09 TO COME BACK AND BITE US BECAUSE PEOPLE AROUND
01:37:11 IT AREN'T GOING TO BE PROTECTED.
01:37:12 >> I THINK
01:37:13 WE WANT THE PROTECTION IN SOME WAY.
01:37:15 OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO DO WHAT THE
01:37:17 STATE SAYS. ALSO PART OF IT IS DEALING WITH
01:37:20 THE FACT THAT CEQA AND ITS ORIGINAL
01:37:22 PURPOSE
01:37:23 WAS KIND OF CIRCUMVENTED WHEN A LOT OF
01:37:24 IT WAS USED AS A LEGAL WAY TO JUST
01:37:25 BLOCK PROJECTS.
01:37:28 AND
01:37:29 SO IF THEY WERE TRYING TO GET AROUND
01:37:31 THAT TO AN EXTENT.
01:37:32 WE WILL SEE IF THEY WENT THE OTHER WAY TOO FAR.
01:37:39 THIS IS WHY XANDER HAS A PERMANENT
01:37:42 JOB AND HE WILL NEVER HAVE TO WORRIED ABOUT
01:37:43 NOT
01:37:44 HAVING SOMETHING TO REVIEW.
01:37:45 >> THANK
01:37:46 YOU.
01:37:48 ADVANCED MANUFACTURING MEANS MANUFACTURING
01:37:49 PROCESSES THAT
01:37:52 IMPROVE EXISTING OR CREATE
01:37:54 ENTIRELY NEW MATERIALS, PRODUCTS,
01:37:57 AND PROCESSES THROUGH THE USE OF SCIENCE,
01:38:01 ENGINEERING OR INFORMATION
01:38:04 TECHNOLOGIES.
01:38:07 SOUNDS
01:38:08 LIKE A.I. HIGH PRECISION TOOLS AND MEDICAL
01:38:09 EXAMINER UNDEFEATEDS, HIGH PERFORMANCE WORK FORCE AND
01:38:10 ORGANIZATION MODELS.
01:38:11 UTILIZING ANY OF THE FOLLOWING TECHNOLOGY
01:38:12 AREAS, MICRO ELECTRONICS, NANO ELECTRONICS
01:38:16 AND SEMI CONDUCTORS, MATERIALS MATERIALS,
01:38:19 INTEGRATED MATERIALS,
01:38:20 ENGINEERING, NANOTECHNOLOGY, ADDITIVE MANUFACTURING, AND
01:38:22 INDUSTRIAL BIOTECHNOLOGY.
01:38:25 AND THEN IT GETS MORE EXAMPLES.
01:38:28 >> WELCOME.
01:38:31 >> PRETTY SWEEPING.
01:38:32 >> OVER HERE, I THINK IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
01:38:40 ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR CAN WE CONTINUE?
01:38:41 >> ON TO DENSITY.
01:38:46 DENSITY BONUSES.
01:38:49 YOU ARE ALL
01:38:51 FAMILIAR WITH IT. FAMILIAR WITH THIS
01:38:52 PART OF THE PRESENTATION WHEN I
01:38:55 PUT UP A WHOLE BUNCH OF BORING
01:38:57 SPREADSHEETS AND YOU ALL TAKE A LITTLE NAP.
01:38:58 FOR GOOD
01:39:01 OR ABOUT, I HAVE NO
01:39:02 SPREADSHEETS THIS YEAR. AM THEY DIDN'T TWEAK THE
01:39:04 NUMBERS THIS YEAR. USUALLY, YOU
01:39:07 KNOW, THERE IS A PERCENTAGES AND THEY LIKE TO
01:39:08 INCREASE THEM.
01:39:10 WE STILL HAVE THE SAME DENSITY BONUSES FOR AFFORDABLE
01:39:12 HOUSING, STUDENT HOUSING, SENIOR HOUSING.
01:39:13 IF YOU
01:39:15 PROVIDE IT, YOU GET AN INCREASE IN
01:39:16 THE ALLOWABLE
01:39:19 DENSITY OF YOUR SITE.
01:39:21 THE BIGGEST DENSITY-RELATED BILL THIS JEER
01:39:22 IS SB 79,
01:39:25 THE RESULT MUCH A VERY LONG LEGISLATIVE
01:39:28 PROCESS. IT'S A BILL SENATOR WIENER
01:39:29 DRAFTED.
01:39:30 HE PREVIOUSLY TRIED TO GET IT PASSED
01:39:31 TWO DIFFERENT TIMES.
01:39:32 I THINK IT WAS CALLED SB 50 BACK IN 2020.
01:39:37 WHICH ULTIMATELY FAILED. THIS BILL DID
01:39:40 NOT FALL BUT WENT
01:39:41 THROUGH 13 DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS BEFORE IT
01:39:43 WAS FINALIZED.
01:39:45 COMPARED TO THE ORIGINAL, IT'S QUITE
01:39:46 WATERED DOWN. THE FINAL VERSION APPLIES TO
01:39:47 EIGHT COUNTIES IN THE STATE.
01:39:49 BUT SANTA
01:39:50 CLARA IS ONE OF THEM. SO AREN'T YOU LUCKY?
01:39:52 HERE'S WHAT IT DOES.
01:39:58 SENATE BILL 79
01:40:01 OVERRIDES LOCAL DENSITY LIMITS TO
01:40:02 ALLOW
01:40:03 HIGH-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT NEAR TRAIN STATIONS.
01:40:06 THE AMOUNT OF THE DENSITY DEPENDS
01:40:07 ON WHAT KIND OF TRAIN
01:40:10 STATION IT IS. IT APPLIES TO TWO KINDS.
01:40:11 THEY
01:40:14 CALL THEM TIER ONE AND TIER TWO.
01:40:15 TIER ONE ARE HEAVY RAIL AND HIGH FREQUENCY COMMUTER RAIL
01:40:17 STATIONS.
01:40:20 WE HAVE TWO OF THOSE.
01:40:21 WE HAVE SANTA CLARA STATION, WHICH YOU
01:40:23 SEE ON YOUR
01:40:26 SCREEN, AND
01:40:27 THEN WE HAVE THE LAWRENCE STATION, WHICH IS
01:40:29 IN SUNNYVALE, OF COURSE. BUT AS YOU CAN
01:40:31 SEE, IT'S QUITE CLOSE TO THE SANTA CLARA BORDER.
01:40:33 AND THEN SECOND YOU WILL HEAR FROM THE RADIUSES.
01:40:35 SO THIS WILL AFFECT SANTA CLARA.
01:40:38 TIER
01:40:39 TWO STATIONS ARE LIGHT RAIL AND LOWER FREQUENCY COMMUTER
01:40:41 RAIL.
01:40:44 FOR THOSE WE
01:40:46 HAVE THE FOUR STATIONS ON TASMAN DRIVE.
01:40:47 WHICH
01:40:50 YOU CAN SEE AS
01:40:51 THE LITTLE BLIPS ON THIS MIDDLE OF TASMAN
01:40:53 THERE.
01:40:56 FOR TIER ONE
01:40:57 TRAIN STATIONS, YOU CAN BUILD SOME REALLY DENSE
01:40:59 HOUSING.
01:41:02 AND YOU CAN SEE THE CHART THERE.
01:41:05 I PUT UP WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE
01:41:06 WITHIN A HALF-MILE, BETWEEN A QUARTER
01:41:08 MILE AND A HALF-
01:41:10 MILE OF THE TRAIN STATION? FOR TIER
01:41:11 ONE TRAIN STATIONS YOU
01:41:14 CAN BUILD BETWEEN 30 AND
01:41:17 100 TWEELG UNITS PER ACHE UP UP TO
01:41:20 65 FEET. TIER TWO, 30 TO
01:41:23 80 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND 55 FEET.
01:41:26 THERE IS A COME COLUMN FOR
01:41:28 MINIMUM RESIDENTIAL FAR. WE CAN'T
01:41:29 HAVE A RESIDENTIAL FAR
01:41:32 BELOW THIS NUMBER. DOESN'T APPLY TO US
01:41:34 BECAUSE WE DON'T REGULATE RESIDENTIAL
01:41:35 FAR.
01:41:36 COMMERCIAL, BUT NOT A RESIDENTIAL FAR
01:41:38 LIMIT IN OUR CODE. SO THAT PART OF IT DOESN'T
01:41:41 REALLY MATTER. WHEN
01:41:44 YOU GET WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF THE STATION, THE DENSITY
01:41:47 GOES UP TO 120 DWELLING UNITS PER
01:41:49 ACRE FOR TIER ONE, WHUN DWELLING UNITS FOR
01:41:50 TIER TWO,
01:41:53 AND OUT HEIGHT UP TO 75 FEET
01:41:55 FOR TIER ONE AND 65 FEET FOR TIER
01:41:56 TWO. IF YOU ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO
01:41:59 THE STATION, YOU GET EVEN MORE.
01:42:02 40 MORE DWELLING UNITS PER
01:42:05 ACRE, UP TO 160 FOR TIER ONE, 120 FOR
01:42:08 TIER TWO. OH, I DID
01:42:11 THE MATH WRONG. THAT'S SHOULD
01:42:14 SAY 140 DWELLING UNITS PER
01:42:16 ACRE FOR TIER TWO. AWAY APOLOGIZE.
01:42:20 MAC HEIGHT
01:42:21 OF 85 IN TIER ONE AND 85 TIER TO.
01:42:23 THOSE ARE TALL BUILDINGS.
01:42:29 THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS.
01:42:32 YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST FIVE DWELLING
01:42:33 UNITS.
01:42:34 IF IT'S A MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, TWO-THIRDS OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE
01:42:35 HAS TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
01:42:39 YOU ARE PROHIBITED FROM
01:42:40 HAVING McMANSIONS, YOUR MAXIMUM UNIT
01:42:42 SIZE IS 1750 SQUARE FEET.
01:42:45 THERE IS
01:42:46 AN AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT. ALTHOUGH IT'S
01:42:48 A LITTLE ON
01:42:50 THE WEAK SIDE. 7% EXTREMELY LOW, 10% VERY LOW
01:42:51 OR 13% LOW.
01:42:57 THE UNITS HAS TO
01:42:59 BE RESTRICTED FOR 45 YEARS FOR SALE
01:43:01 OR 55 YEARS FOR RENTAL. THERE ARE LABOR STANDARDS.
01:43:03 YOU HAVE
01:43:04 TO PAY PREVAILING WAGESWAGES AND HIRE
01:43:06 A SKILLED WORK FORCE.
01:43:09 AGAIN, IT'S LIMITED TO WHEN CONSTRUCTION
01:43:11 IS OVER 85 FEET IN HEIGHT, WHICH AGAIN
01:43:12 IS THE TRANSITION POINT FROM TYPE THREE
01:43:15 TO TYPE ONE CONSTRUCTION.
01:43:18 THE BILL
01:43:20 APPLIES TO SITES THAT ARE ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL,
01:43:21 MIXED-USE AND COMMERCIAL USES.
01:43:24 WHICH RAISES
01:43:26 THE QUESTION, IF A SITE IS ZONED FOR
01:43:29 INDUSTRIAL USES, DOES THE SITE EVEN APPLY?
01:43:30 BECAUSE WE HAVE
01:43:33 A BUNCH OF SITES ON THE TASMAN
01:43:34 QUARTER THAT ARE SFWLOEND EITHER INDUSTRIAL OR
01:43:36 OFFERS R AND DILMA ROUSSEFF.
01:43:39 THE BILL DOESN'T DEFINE
01:43:42 COMMERCIAL. BUT IT
01:43:45 DOES EXPRESSLY ADDRESS
01:43:47 INDUSTRIAL AREAS. IT SAYS THE BILL
01:43:48 DOES
01:43:50 NOT APPLY TO INDUSTRIAL AREAS THAT
01:43:52 ARE 250 CONTIGUOUS ACRES OR MORE.
01:43:56 IF THEY WERE DESIGNATED THAT WAY THE GENERAL PLAN PRIOR TO
01:43:57 JANUARY 2025.
01:44:02 WE'VE GOT SOME INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES
01:44:06 ALONG TASMAN. WE DON'T HAVE 250 CONTIGUOUS
01:44:08 ACRES. FACT THAT THEY PUT IN THIS
01:44:09 EXPRESS
01:44:11 EXEMPTION TELLS ME THEY MEANT TO APPLY
01:44:12 THIS TO INDUSTRIAL SITES.
01:44:15 SO THIS IS GOING TO APPLY TO OUR
01:44:17 INDUSTRIAL PARCELS ALONG TASMAN. HERE
01:44:18 AGAIN YOU CAN SEE
01:44:19 THE TASMAN STATIONS ARE MARKED BY
01:44:21 THOSE RED Xs.
01:44:24 SO IT'S REALLY THE AREA TO THE
01:44:27 UPPER LEFT OF THAT IMAGE THAT ARE
01:44:30 INDUSTRIAL. THE PINK AND THE
01:44:33 PURPLE ARE THE INDUSTRIAL ZONES.
01:44:34 SORRY, I DIDN'T INCLUDE THE KEY. TO
01:44:36 THE
01:44:39 RIGHT, LEVI'S STADIUM, THE RELATED CITY PLACE
01:44:40 PROJECT, WHICH ALREADY HAS REALLY
01:44:42 HIGH RESIDENTIAL DENSITY,
01:44:45 AND THEN TASMAN EAST, WHICH ALREADY
01:44:46 HAS
01:44:47 HIGH RESIDENTIAL DENSITY MUCH THAT
01:44:48 AREA IN THE UPPER
01:44:51 LEFT CORNER OF THE IMAGE WILL BE
01:44:54 SUBJECT TO THIS NEW BILL. AS YOU SAW, IT COULD
01:44:57 MEAN SOME REALLY TALL BUILDINGS, REALLY
01:44:58 HIGH RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WHERE CURRENTLY WE'VE GOT INDUSTRIAL
01:45:00 USES.
01:45:03 THE CITY
01:45:06 DOES HAVE A PROCESS
01:45:08 IN THEORY OF SOFTENING THE IMPACT
01:45:09 OF THIS BILL. THERE IS A
01:45:12 PROCESS TO EXEMPT CERTAIN
01:45:15 SITES IF THE CITY
01:45:18 REALLY QUICKLY CREATES A NEW
01:45:21 TRANSIT ORIENTED
01:45:23 DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE PLAN AN SUBMITS THIS
01:45:24 PLAN TO
01:45:26 HCD AND THEY APPROVE THE PLAN BY JULY 1 OF THIS YEAR.
01:45:30 THAT WILL ALLOW US TO
01:45:31 SHIFT SOME OF THAT CAPACITY TO A DIFFERENT
01:45:33 PART OF THE CITY.
01:45:36 NOT TO GET RID OF THE CAPACITY.
01:45:38 JUST SHIFT IT. THE CITY WOULD HAVE
01:45:39 TO
01:45:41 CALCULATE, OKAY, HOW MANY UNITS CAN
01:45:42 YOU BUILD WITHIN A HALF-
01:45:45 MILE RADIUS OF EVERY TRAIN STATION.
01:45:51 WE COULD THEN POTENTIALLY REDUCE
01:45:52 THE DENSITY ON ANY SITE WITHIN ONE OF THOSE AREAS BY
01:45:54 UP TO 50%. ONLY UP TO 50%.
01:45:57 SO INSTEAD OF A RANGE OF 30 TO
01:46:00 100 DWELLINGS PER ACRE, WE COULD
01:46:03 SAY 15 TO 50 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
01:46:04 THE
01:46:06 CATCH IS YOU HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER SPOT IN THE CITY TO TAKE
01:46:08 ON THAT EXTRA CAPACITY. IT'S SORT
01:46:10 OF LINING
01:46:11 WHEN YOU DOWN ZONE ONE SITE IN THE
01:46:13 HOUSING ELEMENT, YOU HAVE TO
01:46:16 UPZONE ANOTHER SITE.
01:46:17 THEY ARE SAYING SB 79 HAS JUST ADDED
01:46:19 ALL THIS
01:46:21 KPAS AND IT IS THERE AND YOU ARE STUCK WITH
01:46:22 IT UNLESS YOU FIND SOMEWHERE
01:46:24 ELSE TO PUT. EVEN IF WE FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE
01:46:25 TO PUT
01:46:26 IT, WE CAN ONLY REDUCE THE DENSITY BY 50%.
01:46:31 SO ONCE AGAIN THIS IS KIND
01:46:34 OF WEAK SAUCE. I JUST DON'T SEE
01:46:37 A VERY VIABLE PATH WITH COMING UP
01:46:39 WITH SOME SORT OF ALTERNATE BILLS.
01:46:40 THE BILL IS EFFECTIVE JULY 1 OF
01:46:41 THIS YEAR. AND THAT IS SCOTT WIENER'S
01:46:43 MASTERPIECE.
01:46:49 >>
01:46:51 YOU MENTIONED PROPERTIES ONON TAS MAP AND
01:46:52 COME BACK TO
01:46:53 INCREASE THEIR HEIGHT AND DENSITY.
01:46:58 >> YES. >> UNDER
01:47:01 THIS --
01:47:02 >> YES AND YES. >>
01:47:03 REOPEN THE DA?
01:47:04 >> WELL, ALL RIGHT.
01:47:06 SO THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT. ARE SO YOU'RE
01:47:07 TALKING ABOUT,
01:47:09 LIKE, IF THERE IS A --I MEAN, LIKE,
01:47:10 THE RELATED CITY PLACE
01:47:13 PROJECT IS LOCKED IN WITH CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS.
01:47:16 THEY CAN'T REOPEN IT BASE AND THIS.
01:47:18 THEY HAVE A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION
01:47:19 AND THE FACT THAT
01:47:22 THIS, YOU KNOW, IN THEORY --I
01:47:25 MEAN, RELATED --I THEY CAN ASK
01:47:27 AND WE CAN AGREE TO REOPEN IT, BUT WE HAVE
01:47:28 NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO DO THAT.
01:47:30 MOST OF THE TASMAN EAST PROPERTIES
01:47:32 ARE NOT SUBJECT TO A
01:47:34 DA, SO THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY INCREASE --
01:47:35 I
01:47:37 MEAN, RIGHT NOW NOBODY'S TRYING TO INCREASE DENSITY.
01:47:38 THEY ARE TRYING TO REDUCE.
01:47:44 BUT THOSE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES
01:47:47 ALONG TASMAN I THINK ARE THE --
01:47:48 >>
01:47:50 TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE
01:47:52 INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ELECTRICAL, UTILITY,
01:47:56 SEWER, EVERYTHING THAT SUPPORTS
01:47:59 THOSE KIND --
01:48:01 QUESTION ON WILL OUR HOUSING ELEMENT
01:48:02 SITES, CAN THEY BE UPDATED BECAUSE OF THIS?
01:48:05 >> ABSOLUTELY.
01:48:08 I MEAN, WELL,
01:48:10 I'M SORRY. STRIKE THAT. STRIKE THAT.
01:48:11 YOU CAN'T
01:48:13 CHANGE THE HOUSING ELEMENT UNTIL YOU
01:48:14 HAVE DONE
01:48:16 AN ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS --ENVIRONMENTAL
01:48:17 CLEARANCE. SO
01:48:19 LIKE ALL THESE INDUSTRIAL SITES, WE
01:48:20 HAVEN'T DONE ANY
01:48:21 ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS FOR CHANGING
01:48:23 THE DESIGNATION
01:48:25 TO RESIDENTIAL. SO --
01:48:26 >> BUT CERTAIN SITES
01:48:27 IN
01:48:29 THAT, RIGHT? OUR
01:48:30 HOUSING ELEMENT TO SAY SHE'S SITES
01:48:32 OFFER UP X NUMBER OF
01:48:34 HOUSING UNITS?
01:48:35 >> IN THE NEXT CYCLE, PROBABLY.
01:48:37 IF WE DID THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS
01:48:39 AND/OR IF SOMEBODY COMES AND BUILDS SOMETHING ON
01:48:41 ONE OF
01:48:43 THEM USING THIS, ABSOLUTELY UPDATE THE INVENTORY
01:48:44 AND BE LIKE,
01:48:46 LOOK, AREN'T WE GREAT? WE HAVE ALL THESE
01:48:47 MORE UNITS.
01:48:49 WE WOULD BE THRILLED TO ADD TO OUR INVENTORY.
01:48:50 BUT, YEAH, I
01:48:52 MEAN, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IS THE MAIN CATCH
01:48:53 THERE.
01:48:54 >> GOT IT.
01:48:56 >>
01:48:59 ONE OTHER SET OF DENSITY LAWS.
01:49:02 AB 87 AND SB 92, LIKE THAT.
01:49:05 >> SUSPECT THAT NICE IMAGE? >> AMAZING.
01:49:06 RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE.
01:49:07 >> SAN DIEGO.
01:49:13 AB 87, SPECIFIES A LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS
01:49:14 NOT REQUIRED TO
01:49:17 GRANT A CONCESSION OR INCENTIVE UNDER
01:49:19 THE DENSITY BONUS LAW FOR THE PORTION
01:49:20 OF A
01:49:23 HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS A
01:49:25 HOTEL/MOTEL BED AND BREAKFAST OR OTHER
01:49:26 TRANSIENT LODGING. A FEW YEARS
01:49:29 AGO, THE LEGISLATURE AMENDED THE DENSITY
01:49:32 BONUS LAW TO ADDRESS
01:49:34 MIXED USE PROJECTS. AND THE IDEA WAS TO REWARD
01:49:35 A DEVELOPER
01:49:37 FOR PROVIDING EXTRA AFFORDABLE UNITS WITH
01:49:38 A
01:49:40 BENEFIT FOR THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF
01:49:41 THE MIXED-USE PROJECT. SO THEY
01:49:44 COULD INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF THEIR COMMERCIAL
01:49:45 PROJECT,
01:49:46 REDUCTION IN PARKING, INCREASE IN
01:49:47 THE ALLOWABLE FAR. THESE
01:49:50 ARE THINGS YOU COULD GET WITH WAIVERS FOR
01:49:51 THE RESIDENTIAL
01:49:52 DEVELOPMENT BUT UNTIL THEY CHANGE
01:49:53 THE LAW YOU COULDN'T
01:49:54 APPLY THOSE WAIVERS TO THE COMMERCIAL PART OF A MIXED-USE
01:49:56 PROJECT.
01:49:59 SO THEY SAID, HEY, THIS WILL
01:50:02 BE GREAT. LET'S INCENTIVIZE HOUSING
01:50:03 BY ALLOWING WAIVERS FOR THE
01:50:05 COMMERCIAL PART OF A PROGRAM. BUT
01:50:08 THEN A SAVVY DEVELOPER IN SAN DIEGO TRIED
01:50:12 TO USE THAT TO
01:50:15 BUILD A 23 STORY HOTEL IN
01:50:16 A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. THE DEVELOPER WAS GOING TO BUILD
01:50:18 7
01:50:19 HAD DWELLING UNITS PROBABLY AT THE BASE
01:50:21 OF
01:50:22 THIS, TEN WOULD BE AFFORDABLE. HE ASKED AS
01:50:24 A INCENTIVE FOR THE
01:50:27 CITY TO GET RID OF THE
01:50:28 30-FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT AND INSTEAD ALLOW
01:50:30 HIM TO PUT UP A 240-FOOT HOTEL.
01:50:32 SO THIS BILL LIMITS THAT A LITTLE.
01:50:38 STATE
01:50:39 ARE NOW
01:50:41 EXPRESSLY INAPPLICABLE TO HOTEL PORTIONS
01:50:43 OF MIXED-USE PROJECTS. SO IT WOULD PROHIBIT
01:50:45 THE PROJECTS
01:50:47 LIKE YOU SEE HERE. IT ALSO FURTHER PROVIDES A
01:50:48 CONCESSION
01:50:51 OR
01:50:52 INCENTIVE SHALL NOT RESULT IN A PROPOSED
01:50:54 PROJECT WITH A COMMERCIAL FLOOR
01:50:56 AREA RATIO MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF
01:50:57 TIMES
01:50:58 THE PREMISES BASE ZONE COMMERCIAL FLOOR RATIO.
01:51:06 THIS IS STILL PROPOSED.
01:51:09 THE DEVELOPER
01:51:11 IS TRYING TO CLAIM THAT THEY WERE REALLY ALREADY
01:51:13 ENTITLED, SO THIS NEW LAW SHOULDN'T APPLY TO THEM.
01:51:15 I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING
01:51:16 TO SHAKE OUT. BUT THAT IS, YEAH, SAN DIEGO.
01:51:27 NEXT LET'S TALK ABOUT ADUs.
01:51:33 >>
01:51:34 WHERE DO YOU GET THE GRAPHICS?
01:51:35 >> THAT
01:51:36 WAS BUILD
01:51:38 IN INDONESIA AFTER A EARTHQUAKE IN 2006.
01:51:42 SB 543.
01:51:44 PROCESSING CHANGES TO ADUs, TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR CITY STAFF.
01:51:51 SUN BREAK 543 NOW REQUIRES
01:51:52 CITIES TO DETERMINE WHETHER AN APPLICATION TO
01:51:56 CONSTRUCT AN ADU IS COMPLETE WITHIN
01:51:57 15 BUSINESS
01:51:59 DAYS OF RECEIPT. WE ALREADY HAD A
01:52:00 60 DAYTIME
01:52:01 LIMIT TO APPROVE AN APPLICATION AFTER IT
01:52:03 WAS COMPLETE.
01:52:05 FWHOU WIPHA 15-DAY TIME LINE AT THE STARTING LINE TO DETERMINE
01:52:06 WHETHER IT'S COMPLETE.
01:52:09 THERE IS
01:52:11 ALSO A NEW RIPE FOR ADUADU APPLICANTS
01:52:12 TO APPEAL
01:52:13 AN INCOMPLETENESS DETERMINATION TO
01:52:14 EITHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL AS WE DESIGNATE.
01:52:18 AND IF WE MISS
01:52:19 THE 15-DAY DEADLINE, THE APPLICATION IS
01:52:21 DEEMED COMPLETE.
01:52:24 IF WE SIGNED SOMETHING MISSING IN THE
01:52:26 PROCESS, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH A WRITTEN LIST
01:52:27 WHAT THEY
01:52:29 NEED TO MAKE THE APPLICATION COMPLETE AND
01:52:30 THEN
01:52:32 ON RESUBMIT AL CAN ONLY ASK FOR ITEMS THAT
01:52:33 WE IDENTIFIED ON THE
01:52:36 FIRST REVIEW. WE CAN'T ADD NEW
01:52:39 MISSING ITEMS. SB 543 MAKES A
01:52:41 FEW CLARIFYING CHANGES ALSO. STATUTORY REFERENCES TO
01:52:42 SQUARE FOOTAGE
01:52:44 THEY NOW CLARIFY THOSE RELATES TO THE INTERIOR LIVEABLE
01:52:45 SPACE OF AN ADU.
01:52:50 SO A JUNIOR ADU, FOR INSTANCE, IS 500
01:52:51 SQUARE FEET OR
01:52:54 LESS. THE BILL CLARIFIES THE INTERIOR
01:52:55 LIVING
01:52:57 AREA, NOT THE
01:52:59 EXTERIOR WALLS. ALSO PROVIDES THAT
01:53:00 ADUs OR JUNIOR ADUs
01:53:03 WITH LESS THAN 500 SQUARE FEET OF
01:53:05 LIVEABLE SPACE ARE EXEMPT FROM SCHOOL IMPACT
01:53:06 FEES.
01:53:08 THEY DID A COUPLE OTHER FEE LIMITATIONS FOR SMALL ADUs LIKE
01:53:09 THAT.
01:53:15 ANOTHER
01:53:18 ADU BILL IS SPECIFIC TO JUNIOR ADUS.
01:53:21 AB 1154. IT'S SIMPLY A JUNIOR
01:53:24 ADU AGAIN IS A UNIT THAT'S 500 SQUARE
01:53:25 FEET
01:53:27 OR LESS THAT'S LOCATED WHOLLY WITHIN
01:53:30 AN EXISTING OR PROPOSED
01:53:32 SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. PREVIOUSLY STATE ADU
01:53:36 LAW SAID FROM ADOPTING
01:53:39 OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENTS ON REGULAR
01:53:42 ADUs, BUT WE HAD TO IMPOSE SUCH REQUIREMENTS
01:53:45 ON JUNIOR ADUs.
01:53:48 JUNIOR ADUs HAD TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED.
01:53:49 AND
01:53:50 AN OWNER OCCUPIED CONDITION MEANS THAT THE PROPERTY
01:53:52 EVENER
01:53:53 RESFWLIEDS IN EITHER THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE
01:53:55 OR THE
01:53:57 JUNIOR ADU. SO AB 1154 TWEAKS THIS.
01:53:58 NOW
01:54:01 IT SAYS THE CITY CAN ONLY IMPOSE
01:54:04 OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENTS ON
01:54:07 JADUs THAT SHARE SANITATION
01:54:09 FACILITIES WITH THE PRIMARILY DWELLING.
01:54:10 YOU ARE LOOKING
01:54:11 REALLY TIRED. CAN I FINISH THIS SLIDE?
01:54:13 IF A
01:54:16 JADU IS DESIGNED TO HAVE
01:54:19 SEPARATE BATHROOM, THE CITY IT CAN
01:54:22 NO LONGER REQUIRE THEY
01:54:24 RESIDE IN THE PRIMARY DWELLING OR
01:54:27 JADU. WE WILL HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES.
01:54:28 WE
01:54:30 WILL SPELL OUT AN APPEAL PROCESS IF SOMEONE
01:54:31 WANTS TO
01:54:33 CHALLENGE A COMPLETENESS DETERMINATION
01:54:34 AND CHANGE THE
01:54:37 LANGUAGE ABOUT OWNER
01:54:39 OCCUPANCY FOR JADUs.
01:54:40 >> A QUESTION ABOUT THE OWN
01:54:41 OWNER OCCUPANCY PORTION OF THIS. IS
01:54:43 THERE A TIME LIMIT OBJECT OWNER OCCUPANCY?
01:54:46 BEFORE, SAY, THEY WANT TO SELL THE PROPERTY
01:54:47 AFTER THEY BUILT THE HOUSE AND LIVED IN IT FOR
01:54:49 THE TIME THEY BUILT IT.
01:54:51 IS IT AN OPTION TO SELL AND MOVE ON?
01:54:58 >> YOU MEAN IF
01:55:00 THEY SELL THE HOUSE --
01:55:01 >> THE AM WHOLE --
01:55:02 >> OWNER OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT
01:55:04 GO AWAY?
01:55:05 >> YES. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M ASKING.
01:55:07 BUT I AM LOOKING AT THE IDEA THAT IF SOMEBODY
01:55:09 WAS GETTING READY TO SELL AND MOVE OUT, THEY
01:55:10 WOULD BUILD OUT AN
01:55:13 ADU
01:55:16 AND CONSIDER IT A SEPARATE
01:55:17 SELLABLE ITEM WITHIN THE PROPERTY.
01:55:19 YOU
01:55:20 UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M -- GOD, I WISH I COULD PHRASE IT IN MORE
01:55:22 LEGAL TERMS.
01:55:28 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> SEE,
01:55:30 YOU MENTIONED THERE WAS A REQUIRED
01:55:31 OWNER OCCUPANCY.
01:55:32 BUT IS THERE A TIME LIMIT THAT OWNER OCCUPANT IS THERE?
01:55:37 >> I MEAN, RIGHT. SO IF YOU ARE
01:55:39 ABOUT TO SELL YOUR HOUSE, TYPICALLY YOU WOULD HOPE
01:55:40 IT'S VACANT. SO CAN
01:55:43 YOU CHOOSE NOT TO RENEW
01:55:44 YOUR LEASE WITH YOUR TENANT? ABSOLUTELY.
01:55:48 SO THAT IT'S FULLY VACANT. YOU DON'T HAVE
01:55:49 ANY OBLIGATION TO
01:55:50 ACTUALLY RENT THE UNIT OUT TO ANYONE.
01:55:55 BUT --
01:55:58 >> WHAT IF YOU SELL THE ENTIRE PROPERTY?
01:55:59 THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
01:56:02 YOU ARE NO LONGER OWNER
01:56:04 OCCUPANT OF EITHER UNIT S THERE A TIME
01:56:05 LIMIT --
01:56:06 >> THE NEW OWNER WOULD BE BUYING
01:56:08 IT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT
01:56:09 THEY OCCUPY ONE OF THE UNITS. AM.
01:56:11 >> GOT IT. >> IF THEY
01:56:13 WANT TO CONTINUE TO RENT OUT THE JUNE ADU.
01:56:14 THEY COULD OCCUPY THE WHOLE
01:56:17 THING
01:56:20 OR USE THE ENTIRE THING AS A
01:56:21 SINGLE RENTAL UNIT. BUT IF THEY HAVE A SEPARATE
01:56:23 JUNIOR
01:56:26 ADU WITH A
01:56:28 MAIN HOUSE, ONE HAS TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED.
01:56:30 >> YOU ARE DANCING AROUND MY SPECIFIC
01:56:32 EXAMPLE, WHICH IS YOU ARE
01:56:33 AN OWNER OCCUPANT, YOU BUILD THE ADU,
01:56:35 YOU SELL THE HOUSE TO
01:56:37 SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO MAKE THAT COMPLETE RENTAL.
01:56:38 THEY ARE BUYING THE HOUSE AFTER THE ADU
01:56:41 IS FULLY BUILT AND WAS
01:56:42 APPROPRIATE. BUT WHEN THEY PURCHASE THE
01:56:43 HOUSE, THEY ARE NOT PLANNING TO LIVE THERE AT ALL.
01:56:49 THEY ARE PLANNING TO RENT BOTH --
01:56:50 BOTH COMPONENTS.
01:56:51 HOUSE.
01:56:52 >> YOU CAN RENT THEM AS ONE
01:56:53 UNIT.
01:56:55 THERE IS NO OBLIGATION THAT YOU KEEP
01:56:59 A HOUSE PLUS AN ADU AS TWO
01:57:00 SEPARATE UNITS. YOU CAN RENT THEM
01:57:02 BOTH.
01:57:03 >>
01:57:04 ONE IS SEPARATELY RENT THEM?
01:57:05 >> RIGHT.
01:57:06 >> BUT
01:57:07 THEN NEITHER OF THEM ARE OWNER OCCUPIED
01:57:08 IN THAT
01:57:10 CASE.
01:57:11 >> THEN IT'S JUST --WE TREAT IT
01:57:12 AS ONE UNIT.
01:57:14 IT'S A RENTAL.
01:57:15 >> GOOD. I AM NOT TRYING
01:57:16 TO -- I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT.
01:57:17 THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE A COMMON SITUATION.
01:57:20 >> OKAY.
01:57:23 SO I MENTIONED WE HAVE TO
01:57:25 MAKE SOME MINOR TWEAKS TO OUR ADU
01:57:26 ORDINANCE.
01:57:29 WHICH BRINGS
01:57:32 US TO THE NEXT BILL.
01:57:35 SENATE BILL 9. UNFORTUNATELY.
01:57:36 >> WE
01:57:37 HAD A SENATE
01:57:38 BILL 9 A FEW YEARS AGO THAT
01:57:41 ALLOWED SECOND UNITS
01:57:43 AND URBAN LOT SPLITS. YOU BUT THIS
01:57:44 NEW SENATE BILL
01:57:47 9 IS ABOUT ADU ORDER NENS. WE ARE REQUIRED
01:57:48 TO HAVE AN ADU
01:57:49 ORDINANCE AND REQUIRED TO UPDATE IT REGULARLY.
01:57:53 LAST YEAR HCD SAID WE
01:57:56 WANT TO REVIEW YOUR ORDINANCE ANY
01:57:58 TIME YOU MAKE AMENDMENTS.
01:57:59 >> THIS YEAR THEY
01:58:00 SAID IF YOU AMEND
01:58:02 YOUR ORDINANCE AND THEN YOU FAIL TO
01:58:04 SUB ANYTIME TO HCD WITHIN 60 DAYS, THE ORDINANCE
01:58:06 GOES POOF.
01:58:09 IT IS VOID.
01:58:12 ALSO, IF YOU
01:58:14 DO SUBMIT IT TO US AND WE WILL GIVE YOU WONDERFUL
01:58:15 COMMENTS, YOU HAVE 30 DAYS
01:58:18 TO
01:58:21 DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
01:58:24 YOU CAN EITHER ADOPT OUR CHANGES
01:58:25 OR ADOPT A RESOLUTION EXPLAINING WHY
01:58:27 YOUR ORDINANCE COMPLIES WITH THE
01:58:30 LAW, NOTWITHSTANDING HCD'S COMMENTS.
01:58:32 AND THEY ARE CLARIFIED HCD REVIEW
01:58:35 ALSO APPLIES TO REGULATIONS OF JUNIOR
01:58:38 ADUs. SO, YES, WE WILL PROBABLY BE
01:58:39 MAKING
01:58:42 THOSE MINOR CHANGES TOTO OUR ADU ORDINANCE IN
01:58:44 THE SHORT RUN AND THEN WE WILL WITHIN
01:58:45 60
01:58:47 DAYS BE SUBMITTING THEM TO HCD BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT OUR ENTIRE
01:58:48 ORDINANCE TO GO AWAY.
01:58:54 THE INTERESTING THING WILL BE
01:58:55 WHEN WE GET THE COMMENTS BACK FROM
01:58:56 THEM BECAUSE IT SAYS WE NEED TO MAKE THE CHANGES WITHIN
01:59:00 30 DAYS. OKAY.
01:59:01 THEY HAVE TO GO TO PLANNING COMMISSION
01:59:03 AND CITY COUNCIL AND
01:59:05 THEN CITY COUNCIL AGAIN AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BAIT 30 DAYS FOR
01:59:07 ADOPTION AND BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION
01:59:09 20 DAYS OF NEWSPAPER NOTICE.
01:59:11 IT'S LIKE --
01:59:12 >> YOU DIDN'T DO YESTERDAY?
01:59:13 >> SOMETHING DOESN'T
01:59:14 ADD UP TO 30. BUT, YOU KNOW.
01:59:15 >> 60 DAYS.
01:59:18 >> SURE. WE'LL READ
01:59:21 30 AS 60. THAT'S WHAT --YEAH AM.
01:59:22 ANYWAY. MOVING ON.
01:59:23 >> IT COULD BE --
01:59:24 MINE, I'M
01:59:25 BEING SERIOUS HERE, IS IT BUSINESS DAYS?
01:59:30 CALENDAR DAYS?
01:59:31 >> WELL,
01:59:33 I MEAN, SINCE IT'S
01:59:34 PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, I THINK I WOULD ARGUE IF
01:59:36 I GOT INTO A FIGHT WITH
01:59:39 HCD WE HAVE AGENDIZED
01:59:41 IT WITHIN 30 DAYS. BEYOND THAT, WE
01:59:42 ARE BOUND BY
01:59:43 STATE LAW. WE CAN'T ADOPT FASTER THAN STATE
01:59:45 LAW ALLOWS.
01:59:48 OR WE
01:59:50 COULD MAKE THE DECISION TO REJECT
01:59:54 HCD'S SUGGESTIONS.
01:59:57 BUT
02:00:00 IT'S
02:00:01 A DELICATE DANCE INTERACTING WITH
02:00:03 HCD AND WE'D HAVE
02:00:05 TO CONSIDER THAT VERY CAREFULLY. LET'S TALK
02:00:06 ABOUT HOUSING FOR
02:00:08 STUDENTS AND HOUSE FOR TEACHERS. SOME LAWS
02:00:09 GOING
02:00:12 INTO THIS YEAR INCREASING THE
02:00:14 SUPPLY FOR BOTH GROUPS. THIS A PICTURE
02:00:15 OF BOTH,
02:00:18 RESIDENCE HALL
02:00:21 AT THE UNIVERSITY COPENHAGEN WHERE
02:00:24 I JUST WENT ON VACATION. ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T STOP
02:00:26 BY THIS UNIVERSITY. FIRST TALK ABOUT AB
02:00:27 648.
02:00:29 AND IT SAYS THAT COMMUNITY COLLEGES
02:00:30 DO NOT HAVE
02:00:33 TO COMPLY WITH LOCAL ZONING RULES
02:00:34 IF
02:00:35 THEY'RE BUILDING UNIVERSITY HOUSING ON PROPERTY THEY OWN.
02:00:39 THIS APPLIES TO PROPERTIES
02:00:42 OWNED OR LEASED BY
02:00:44 THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT, EITHER
02:00:45 ON THE CAMPUS OR WITHIN HALF-MILE OF
02:00:46 THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CAMPUS.
02:00:48 IN SANTA
02:00:51 CLARA, OF COURSE WE HAVE THE WEST VALLEY
02:00:54 MISSION COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT,
02:00:56 WHICH INCLUDES BOTH MISSION COLLEGE IN SANTA CLARA AND WEST
02:00:57 VALLEY COLLEGE IN SARATOGA.
02:01:00 SO
02:01:02 ANY DISTRICT-OWNED PROPERTIES WITHIN
02:01:03 A HALF-MILE OF THE MISSION COLLEGE
02:01:05 CAMPUS WILL BE EXEMPT FROM OUR ZONING
02:01:06 ORDINANCE
02:01:08 IF THEY BUILD HOUSING FOR STUDENTS
02:01:09 OR HOUSING
02:01:11 FOR FACULTY AND STAFF. THE LAW DOES SAY THAT
02:01:13 THE HOUSING
02:01:14 FOR FACULTY AND STAFF HAS TO BE AFFORDABLE.
02:01:16 WEIRDLY ENOUGH, THEY DON'T ATTACK A SPECIFIC PERCENTAGE.
02:01:21 AND AGAIN THIS ONLY APPLIES TO PROPERTIES
02:01:22 OWNED OR LEASED BY THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT.
02:01:28 BUT THE NEXT BILL APPLIES
02:01:31 MORE BROADLY, ABSTAIN
02:01:33 B 893. FLASHBACK A B-2011, YOU LIKED
02:01:37 THIS BILL WE TALKED ABOUT,
02:01:38 RESIDENTIAL USES CAN BE BUILT ON COMMERCIAL
02:01:40 CORRIDORS IF YOU MEET
02:01:41 A CERTAIN AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT AS YOU ARE WELL
02:01:43 AWARE.
02:01:49 BUT AB 893
02:01:52 AMENDS THAT AB 2011 LAW. NOW,
02:01:54 INSTEAD OF JUST APPLYING TO COMMERCIAL
02:01:56 CORRIDORS, IT ALSO APPLIES TO WHAT THEY CALL CAMPUS
02:01:58 DEVELOPMENT ZONES.
02:02:01 AND THAT MEANS AN AREA
02:02:02 WITHIN A HALF-MILE RADIUS AROUND PUBLIC
02:02:04 UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES.
02:02:09 SPECIFICALLY UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA STATE
02:02:12 UNIVERSITY, AND COMMUNITY COLLEGE
02:02:13 DISTRICTS.
02:02:15 SO FOR OUR PURPOSES ONLY THE PROPERTIES
02:02:16 SURROUNDING
02:02:17 MISSION COLLEGE QUALIFY AS CAMPUS
02:02:18 DEVELOPMENT ZONE, NOT SANTA CLARA UNIVERSITY.
02:02:23 BUT FOR THAT HALF-MILE RADIUS ANY
02:02:25 HOUSING MEETING THE SAME
02:02:28 AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENTS
02:02:31 AS A B-2011, 15% LOW, THEY
02:02:34 WILL NOW QUALIFY FOR MINISTERIAL
02:02:36 APPROVAL. THE HOUSING HAS TO TARGET
02:02:37 STUDENTS, FACULTY AND
02:02:39 STAFF. IT'S NOT JUST ANY HOUSING PROJECT T
02:02:40 HAS TO BE
02:02:41 STUDENT HOUSING OR FACULTY AND STAFF
02:02:43 HOUSING.
02:02:46 THESE ARE
02:02:48 THE SPACE BOX STUDIOS WHICH ARE BASICALLY
02:02:52 COLORFUL SHIPPING CONTAINERS TURNED INTO
02:02:53 STUDENT HOUSE INNING
02:02:55 IN THE NETHERLANDS. HERE
02:02:57 A PICTURE OF THE ZONING MAP IN THE
02:02:58 VICINITY OF
02:03:00 MISSION COLLEGE. MISSION COLLEGE IS THE BIG GREEN
02:03:01 BLOB ON THE LEFT-HAND EDGE.
02:03:06 JUST SOUTH OF IT THE MERCADO SHOPPING CENTER
02:03:07 AND
02:03:08 ACROSS 101 A BUNCH OF INDUSTRIAL SITES.
02:03:10 ALL OF THAT
02:03:13 IS SUBJECT TO THIS BILL.
02:03:16 IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD --IF ANYONE WANTS
02:03:17 TO BUILD STUDENT
02:03:18 OR TEACHER HOUSING, THEY CAN DO IT
02:03:19 USING THESE LAWS.
02:03:25 THERE IS ALSO
02:03:28 A LAW THAT
02:03:29 APPLIES TO SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WHICH
02:03:31 WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND HIGH
02:03:34 SCHOOL DISTRICTS. A COUPLE YEARS
02:03:37 AGO, A B-
02:03:40 2295 AUTHORIZED SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO
02:03:43 BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSE ON DISTRICT
02:03:46 PROPERTY PROVIDED THEY MET
02:03:49 THESE AFFORDABILITY LEVELS. 30% LEVEL, 20%
02:03:52 LEVEL, UP TO 35 FEET AND 30
02:03:55 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
02:03:58 AB 1021 THIS YEAR EXPANDED ON
02:04:00 THAT. NOW INSTEAD OF 30% LOW, YOU CAN
02:04:01 BREAK THAT INTO 12% VERY LOW
02:04:04 AND 15% LOW. IT
02:04:06 ALSO EXPANDED THE HEIGHT THAT A SCHOOL DISTRICT CAN BUILD AT.
02:04:07 THEY CAN BUILD
02:04:09 UP TO 65 FEET AND A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 60.AND
02:04:16 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
02:04:19 OH, AND ALL THESE DISCUSSIONS OF DENSITY
02:04:20 IN
02:04:22 THE LAST TEN MINUTES I SHOULD HAVE PUT
02:04:23 AN
02:04:24 ASTERISK NEXT TO ALL OF THEM. THEY ARE SUBJECT TO
02:04:25 THE DENSITY BONUS
02:04:28 LAW. ALL OF THESE ARE BELOW THE
02:04:31 ACTUAL ACHIEVABLE NUMBERS IF
02:04:32 THEY PUT IN AFFORDABLE UNITS, WHICH THEY
02:04:34 ARE
02:04:36 REQUIRED TO HERE, IT WILL BE A HIGHER
02:04:37 E THAN
02:04:39 THAT.
02:04:40 >> REAL QUICK, WHEN SADIST PROPERTY, WOULD
02:04:44 THAT
02:04:46 IN THEORY ALSO MEAN LIKE LITERALLY SCHOOL
02:04:47 PROPERTY, LIKE
02:04:50 IF I'M -- WE GOT IN THIS ONE
02:04:52 SCHOOL, WE WILL TAKE PART IT?
02:04:53 >> YES.
02:04:54 >> OKAY. >> THAT'S WHAT IT'S TAILORED
02:04:56 FOR.
02:04:58 AND FINALLY, CLOSE OUT THE SECTION
02:04:59 ON
02:05:00 CHILDREN, THERE IS A DAY CARE BILL.
02:05:02 DAY CARE CENTERS
02:05:05 ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT
02:05:07 ON THE SAME PROPERTY AS MULTI-FAMILY.
02:05:08 IF YOU
02:05:10 HAVE PROPERTY THAT'S MULTI-FAMILY
02:05:12 RESIDENCES, YOU CAN PUT A DAY CARE
02:05:14 CENTER ON THEM BY RIGHT.
02:05:16 PROHIBITS THE CITY IS FROM IMPOSING
02:05:18 TAXES, CHARGES AND FEES YOU INCLUDING BUSINESS LICENSES
02:05:20 ON THE DAY CARE.
02:05:23 OUR CODE WE
02:05:24 CURRENTLY ALLOW DAY CARE CENTERS IN THE R 6
02:05:26 ZONE, BUT NOT
02:05:28 OUR OTHER MULTIFAMILY ZONES. SO WE WILL HAVE
02:05:29 TO
02:05:31 TWEAK THE ZONING ORDINANCE --
02:05:32 >> SO NO
02:05:33 MORE -- REMEMBER THE
02:05:35 APPLICATION WE HAD WHERE THIS
02:05:38 --
02:05:39 >> YES. >> OWNER HAD
02:05:40 A DAY CARE.
02:05:41 >> YES. BUT WASN'T IT
02:05:42 ON EL CAMINO?
02:05:43 >>
02:05:45 YEAH.
02:05:46 >> SO THAT'S NOT A
02:05:47 MULTI-FAMILY -- WELL, MAYBE IT IS.
02:05:48 >>
02:05:51 NO, IT
02:05:52 IS. IT IS MIXED --
02:05:53 >> IF IT WAS MIXED-USE --
02:05:54 >> AND OUR EL CAMINO SPECIFIC PLAN NOW.
02:05:55 >> YEAH, YEAH, THEY
02:05:56 WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THIS.
02:05:57 >> YEAH.
02:05:58 SO THERE WAS ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT
02:05:59 WAS ALONG THE BORDER AND THAT WAS
02:06:02 A RESIDENCE CONVERTED TO DAY CARE CENTER
02:06:05 AND THE APPLICANT WAS INTERESTED IF
02:06:06 YOU
02:06:07 COULD MERGE OR SUBSUME HIS PROPERTY AS A
02:06:09 COMMERCIAL
02:06:12 ZONING.
02:06:15 NOW THIS WILL
02:06:18 ENABLE, PRECLUDE?
02:06:22 LIKE, CAN --
02:06:23 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> SO RESIDENTIAL,
02:06:24 ADJACENT TO A COMMERCIAL --
02:06:25 >> ADJACENT TO
02:06:27 COMMERCIAL.
02:06:28 >> ADJACENT.
02:06:29 >> THAT DOESN'T HAVE BE ADJACENT.
02:06:30 >> WITH THE LOCKED MERGER?
02:06:38 >> I AM NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING.
02:06:39 HALF THE PARCEL IS COMMERCIAL?
02:06:41 >> NO. THEY HAVE PURCHASED TWO PROPERTIES.
02:06:42 >> I SEE.
02:06:44 ONE IS RESIDENTIAL AN ONE IS COMMERCIAL.
02:06:45 THEY'D STILL NEED TO
02:06:48 REZONE THE COMMERCIAL. WELL, NO, NO, NO,
02:06:49 NO, NO. DAY
02:06:50 CARES ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN COMMERCIAL.
02:06:51 >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING NOW. >> YEAH.
02:06:52 >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING, RIGHT?
02:06:56 SOMEBODY.
02:06:57 >> PROBABLY NOT. >> YEAH.
02:07:00 >> THREE OF THEM,
02:07:02 ONE LAFAYETTE, TWO ON THE EL CAMINO THREE ON
02:07:06 CAMINO
02:07:07 RIGHT BY YOU.
02:07:08 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT
02:07:09 STREAMLINING.
02:07:16 THERE WERE
02:07:18 ALONG LIST OF BILLS THAT SHORTENED
02:07:19 TIMELINES.
02:07:20 I WILL BREEZE THROUGH TOO THESE BECAUSE
02:07:24 THEY MOSTLY AFFECT CITY STAFF, NOT
02:07:27 THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AB 1308 REQUIRES
02:07:28 A LOCAL
02:07:30 BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO INSPECT A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT
02:07:33 WITH TEN OR FEWER UNITS WITHIN TEN
02:07:34 BUSINESS DAYS
02:07:36 OF RECEIVING A NOTICE OF COMPLETION FOR
02:07:37 WORK
02:07:38 THAT WAS AUTHORIZE THE BY A BUILDING
02:07:40 PERMIT. IF
02:07:42 THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FAILS TO OWL
02:07:44 INSPECT WITHIN TEN DAYS, IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE HOUSING
02:07:46 ACCOUNTABILITY ACT.
02:07:51 AB 130 APPLIES THE PERMIT STREAMLINING ACTS TO
02:07:52 PROJECTS
02:07:55 THAT QUALIFY FOR THE INFILL MINISTERIAL APPROVAL
02:07:57 YOU HEARD ABOUT EARLY YOUR FOR 20 ACRES
02:07:58 OR LESS. IT
02:07:59 REQUIRES APPROVAL OR TIS APPROVAL
02:08:00 WITHIN SIXDY DAYS OF RECEIVING A COMPLETED
02:08:01 APPLICATION.
02:08:07 A B-253 ESTABLISHES SOMETHING
02:08:08 CALLED THE CALIFORNIA RESIDENTIAL PRIVATE PERMITTING
02:08:10 REVIEW ACT.
02:08:13 IT SAYS THAT WHEN A CITY
02:08:15 DETERMINES THAT A BUILDING PERMIT
02:08:16 APPLICATION IS COMPLETE FOR
02:08:17 A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, THE CITY HAS
02:08:19 TO PROVIDE AN
02:08:20 ESTIMATED TIMEFRAME ON HOW LONG PLAN
02:08:22 CHECKING IS GOING TO TAKE.
02:08:25 AND IF THE CITY'S ESTIMATE IS MORE
02:08:26 THAN 30
02:08:28 DAYS OR IF THE CITY DOESN'T
02:08:29 PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE, THE APPLICANT
02:08:31 HAS
02:08:34 A RIGHT TO HIRE THEIR OWN PRIVATE
02:08:37 PLAN
02:08:39 CHECKER TO COMPLETE THEIR PLAN CHECK
02:08:40 REVIEW.
02:08:41 THEY CAN GET SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE CITY TO DO THE PLAN
02:08:42 CHECKING THEM SUBMIT THEIR PRE-APPROVED
02:08:43 PLANS TO
02:08:46 THE CITY AND THE
02:08:49 CITY HAS TEN DAYS TO SIGN
02:08:51 OFF, OKAY, WE CONCUR WITH THAT PROFESSIONAL
02:08:52 REVIEW.
02:08:53 >> DEFINE PROFESSIONAL.
02:08:55 >> I DIDN'T LOOK UP THAT DEFINITION.
02:08:58 I AM CURIOUS MYSELF.
02:09:06 >> LEGAL TERM I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROFESSIONAL
02:09:07 AND AMATEUR ONE GETS PAID. THEY GET
02:09:08 PAID
02:09:10 FOR IT, AND IS
02:09:12 THERE ANY KIND OF CERTIFICATION OR REQUIREMENT OF THAT PERSON
02:09:17 TO SAY THAT, OH, YEAH, I
02:09:19 COULD BE A PRIVATE PLAN CHECKER OR GO TO
02:09:20 CHATGPT AND SAY
02:09:21 THIS IS MY PLAN CHECKER AND I HAVE A CAMERA AND
02:09:23 IT SAID EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD?
02:09:32 >> THE TERM IS PRIVATE
02:09:33 PROFESSIONAL PROVIDER, WHICH IS A TONGUE TWISTER.
02:09:37 IT MEANS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, LICENSED
02:09:38 PURSUANT TO
02:09:39 THE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS ACT.
02:09:40 >> OKAY.
02:09:44 >> WHO IS CURRENTLY
02:09:46 CERTIFIED AS A RESIDENTIAL PLANS DPAMER BY
02:09:50 THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL
02:09:53 CURRENTLY CERTIFIED AS
02:09:56 PLANS EXAMINER OR BY ANOTHER
02:09:58 STATE NATIONAL OR INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION THAT THE LOCAL
02:09:59 AGENCY RECOGNIZES
02:10:02 AS AN ACCEPTABLE CERTIFICATION FOR
02:10:05 RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PLANS
02:10:08 EXAMINERS EMPLOYED BIT CITY OR COYOTE.
02:10:09 THEY SHALL NOT
02:10:11 HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN
02:10:12 THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMIT OR
02:10:14 PREPARING THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATION.
02:10:15 SO THEY HAVE TO BE LICENSED AND CERTIFIED.
02:10:17 >> WHO IS GOING TO PAY
02:10:18 FOR THAT? THE ANY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T
02:10:20 COMPLY WITHIN THE TIME?
02:10:21 >> NO.
02:10:23 >> NO?
02:10:26 >> NO, NO. >> THE OWNER? >> WE DO
02:10:27 IT
02:10:29 ALL THE TIME.
02:10:30 >> NO. THEY -- IT'S ON
02:10:32 THEIR DIME IF THEY DO
02:10:34 IT.
02:10:35 >> NOW THE FOX IS GUARDING THE
02:10:36 HEN HOUSE.
02:10:37 >> THAT
02:10:38 ISK ACCURATE.
02:10:39 >> THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN,
02:10:40 SAY LATER
02:10:41 SOMETHING COMES OUT, DOES THAT MEAN THEY WOULD BE --
02:10:42 THERE IS A LIABILITY THAT THE CITY CAN
02:10:44 SAY, HEY, YOU WERE THE
02:10:47 CHECKER AND YOU DID DO X, Y AND Z.
02:10:49 WE ARE COMING AFTER YOU AS WELL AS
02:10:50 THE OWNER?
02:10:51 >> WELL --
02:10:52 >> THEY HAVE TEN DAYS. THE CITY IS
02:10:54 LIABLE.
02:10:55 >>
02:10:56 THE TOUR CLAIMS ACT LIMITS THINGS YOU CAN SUE A CITY FOR.
02:11:00 WHEN IT COMES
02:11:02 TO DOING A BAD JOB OF REVIEWING PLANS,
02:11:05 APPROVING A DEFECTIVE DESIGN, WE HAVE
02:11:08 DESIGN IMMUNITY. IF YOU REVIEW THE
02:11:09 PLANS --
02:11:12 IF A LICENSED CITY OFFICIAL
02:11:14 REVIEWS THE PLANS, EVEN IF THEY DO A
02:11:15 TERRIBLE JOB, YOU
02:11:16 CAN'T SUE THE CITY IF THE BUILDING COLLAPSES.
02:11:18 >> UNDERSTOOD. NOW YOU
02:11:20 HAVE A PRIVATE PLAN CHECKER.
02:11:21 >> WHICH THEN HAS TO BE REVIEWED
02:11:24 AFTER IN
02:11:26 A TEN-DAY PERIOD STILL BY THE CITY.
02:11:30 WE ARE STITT PUTTING OUR EYES ON
02:11:31 T WE ARE NOT DOING AS THOROUGH REVIEW,
02:11:33 WHICH SOUNDS LIKE
02:11:36 AA IDEA. YOU I
02:11:37 BELIEVE IMMUNITY ATTACHES BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING
02:11:39 THAT
02:11:40 FINAL REVIEW.
02:11:41 >> WHEN CAN HE DO INSPECTIONS,
02:11:44 IS PG&E ALSO PART OF THE INSPECTION FROM
02:11:45 OUR BUILDING
02:11:46 DEPARTMENT OR DO THEY DO THEIR OWN
02:11:48 INSPECTIONS ON ELECTRICAL?
02:11:50 AND ARE THEY SUBJECT TO THIS TIMELINE?
02:11:51 SORRY.
02:11:54 GAS.
02:11:55 >> RIGHT.
02:12:00 YEAH.
02:12:03 I THINK PG&E INSPECTS THE GAS LINE.
02:12:04 >> IN GENERAL, IS PG&E --[ INAUDIBLE ]
02:12:12 .
02:12:15 >> ARE THEY SUBJECT TO THAT?
02:12:18 WITHIN TEN DAYS, RESIDENTIAL
02:12:19 PROJECTS MUST BE INSPECTED --
02:12:20 >> OH.
02:12:21 >> I'M ASKING IF OUR
02:12:24 DEPARTMENT --YES. BUT IT'S
02:12:25 PG&E SUBJECT TO THAT PERMIT BECAUSE
02:12:29 IF A DEPARTMENT IS CONTINGENT, AS AN
02:12:32 APPLICANT, PG&E HAS NOT GIFFEN ME THAT
02:12:36 POWER. JURY DICTION AL.
02:12:37 >> MY READING IS IT APPLIES TO
02:12:38 CITY GOVERNMENTS. IT WOULDN'T APPLY
02:12:39 TO PG&E AS
02:12:42 A PRIVATE UTILITY PROVIDER SOME.
02:12:45 THE GET YOUR OWN PLAN CHECKER YOU
02:12:46 COULDN'T
02:12:48 FORCE PG&E TO FORCE
02:12:49 A PRIVATE PLAN CHECKTORY -- I MEAN, THAT'S NOT THE WAY I READ
02:12:51 THE BILL.
02:12:54 >> AND WE ARE
02:12:57 TALKING ABOUT
02:12:58 LARGE MULTIRESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNITS AS
02:13:00 WELL, RIGHT?
02:13:03 BUILDING DEPARTMENT MUST INSPECT RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS S THERE
02:13:04 A
02:13:06 LIMIT ON THE NUMBER MUCH UNITS?
02:13:07 >> [ INAUDIBLE ].
02:13:08 >>
02:13:09 TEN DWELLING UNITS. OKAY. GOT IT.
02:13:10 >> WELL, THERE IS THREE DIFFERENT BILLS.
02:13:12 RIGHT? SO
02:13:15 THE FIRST ONE IS LESS THAN TEN UNITS, TEN BUSINESS DAYS.
02:13:16 THE THIRD BILL
02:13:18 IS FOR ANY
02:13:20 RESIDENTIAL PROJECT YOU HAVE TO GET
02:13:21 GETAWAY THEM AN ESTIMATE. IS THE
02:13:23 ESTIMATE IS LONGER THAN 30 DAYS, THEY
02:13:24 CAN GET THEIR OWN PLAN CHECKER.
02:13:27 >> GOT IT. >> OKAY.
02:13:33 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> RIGHT.
02:13:39 JUST BRIEFLY,
02:13:41 PART OF STREAMLINING IS MAKING IT
02:13:42 LESS
02:13:45 EXPENSIVE TO BUILD HOUSING.
02:13:48 SO THIS BILL SIMPLY REQUIRES CITIES
02:13:51 TO REDUCE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES FOR PROJECTS LEE
02:13:52 INDICATED WITHIN
02:13:54 A HALF-MILE FROM THREE OR MORE OF
02:13:57 THE FOLLOWING. SUPERMARKETS, PUBLIC
02:13:58 PARKS,
02:14:00 COMMUNITY CENTERS, PHARMACIES, MEDICAL
02:14:03 CLINICS, PUBLIC LIBRARIES, SCHOOLS,
02:14:04 CHILDCARE
02:14:05 FACILITIES OR RESTAURANTS. YOU CAN
02:14:07 FIND THREE OF THOSE
02:14:08 AND TRIANGULATE, YOU ARE WITHIN A
02:14:10 HALF-MILE, YOU GET LOWER FEES. I GUESS
02:14:12 THE IDEA BEING, WELL, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO
02:14:13 BE DRIVING
02:14:14 SO FAR, YOU WON'T HAVE SUCH AN IMPACT ON THE ROADS, SO YOU
02:14:16 SHOULD PAY LESS.
02:14:20 FINALLY, STREAMLINING FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE.
02:14:28 RETR
02:14:30 RETROFITTING AND REPURPOSING AN EXISTING BUILDING.
02:14:32 THAT IS THE HIGH LINE PROJECT IN NEW
02:14:34 YORK WHERE THEY DID
02:14:37 THE INNOVATIVE ADAPTIVE
02:14:39 REUSE OF AN ELEVATED RAIL LINE INTO A CITY
02:14:42 PARK.
02:14:43 >> OKAY. THIS IS EDUCATION.
02:14:44 CAN
02:14:46 YOU, AS A DEVELOPER OF A
02:14:49 RETIREMENT FACILITY, USE A
02:14:50 CHILDCARE CENTER AS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WITHIN THE THREE
02:14:52 ITEMS?
02:14:57 I'M DEAD SERIOUS.
02:14:58 >> I KNOW YOU'RE
02:14:59 DEAD SERIOUS.
02:15:00 YEAH, I'M NOT GOING TO TRY MAKE SENSE
02:15:01 OUT OF SOMETHING --
02:15:04 >> THERE SEEMS TO BE NONSENSICAL
02:15:07 LISTS OF OPTIONS HERE.
02:15:08 >> IT IS NONSENSICAL.
02:15:09 I DON'T DISAGREE.
02:15:10 >> RIGHT. >> BUT, I
02:15:11 MEAN, TECHNICALLY,
02:15:12 IF I AM IN THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY
02:15:13 AND DECIDE I
02:15:15 AM GOING TO SAY THAT'S ONE OF MY THREE --
02:15:16 YOU
02:15:18 COULD SAY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL --
02:15:19 >> AND ELEMENTARY
02:15:20 SCHOOL,
02:15:21 RIGHT.
02:15:22 >> AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL --
02:15:23 >> YEAH.
02:15:24 EVEN PUBLIC LIBRARY IS LIKE --OR PUT THOSE THREE TOGETHER AND
02:15:25 YOU HAVE A RETIREMENT FACILITY.
02:15:26 >> A LIBRARY.
02:15:28 BUT, YES.
02:15:31 THEY --
02:15:33 THAT'S --I WOULD --I WOULD ABSOLUTELY
02:15:36 ARGUE I COULD USE THOSE IF I WAS THE
02:15:37 DEVELOPER FOR THE SENIOR CENTER, SENIOR
02:15:38 HOUSING FACILITY.
02:15:39 >> THAT'S AMAZING.
02:15:40 THANK YOU.
02:15:43 >> CLEVER. DEVIOUS.
02:15:46 OKAY. ADAPTIVE REUSE.
02:15:49 SO THIS IS THE
02:15:50 HIGH LINE. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT
02:15:52 REUSING A STRUCTURE FOR A
02:15:54 PARK. ONLY TALKING ABOUT ADAPTIVE
02:15:55 REUSE
02:15:57 FOR HOUSING PROJECTS. IF YOU RECALL TWO
02:15:58 YEARS AGO
02:16:01 WE TOUCHED ON A BILL THAT ALLOWED
02:16:04 FOR STREAMLINED PROCESSING FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE
02:16:06 HOUSING PROJECTS THAT WERE 100% AFFORDABLE.
02:16:07 IF YOU
02:16:10 WANTED TO REUSE AN EXISTING BUILDING AND MAKE IT
02:16:13 100%
02:16:16 AFFORDABLEABLE IN 2023, THE LEGISLATURE CREATED A
02:16:19 MINUTE SERIAL APPROVAL PROCESS.
02:16:22 WITH AB 507 THEY EXPANDED THAT. NOW
02:16:23 YOU
02:16:25 DON'T NEED 100% AFFORDABLE. YOU ONLY
02:16:28 NEED 15% LOW OR 8% VERY LOW
02:16:30 AND 5% EXTREMELY LOW. IF IT'S FOR
02:16:31 SALE, YOU
02:16:34 NEED 15% OR 30% MODERATE.
02:16:40 NOW,
02:16:41 THE BILL APPLIES IN ANY ZONE EXCEPT
02:16:42 INDUSTRIAL ZONES. THIS TIME THEY DID CARVE OUT
02:16:43 INDUSTRIAL ZONES.
02:16:46 TO USE THIS, EITHER THE
02:16:49 BUILDING HAS TO BE LESS THAN
02:16:52 50 YEARS OLD OR IT CAN BE OLDER THAN THAT BUT
02:16:53 YOU HAVE TO
02:16:55 MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT IT'S
02:16:58 NOT ELIGIBLE FOR
02:17:01 LISTING. OR, IF IT IS HISTORICALLY
02:17:02 SIGNIFICANT OR YOU
02:17:05 DETERMINE IT
02:17:07 IS, ANY SORT OF HISTORIC BUILDING
02:17:08 ADAPTATION MUST FOLLOW THE SECRETARY OF
02:17:10 THE INTERIOR STANDARDS FOR REHABILITATION.
02:17:11 YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSE
02:17:13 ODD JUST, YOU KNOW, BLOW UP THE INTERIOR
02:17:17 OF AN HISTORIC BUILDING. YOU
02:17:20 ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THE SECRETARY
02:17:22 OF INTERIOR STANDARDS. THIS DOES NOT
02:17:23 ALLOW
02:17:26 FOR REPURPOSING OF OLD
02:17:27 HOTEL BUILDINGS UNLESS THEY HAVE BEEN
02:17:29 VACANT FIVE YEARS.
02:17:31 IT T IT APPLIES TO MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT
02:17:32 PROPOSALS BUT
02:17:33 HALF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS TO BE
02:17:35 DOUGH
02:17:37 AUTO VOTED TO RESIDENTIAL USES. AND
02:17:38 THIS LAW HAS A LABOR COMPONENT.
02:17:41 THIS TIME A STRONGER LABOR
02:17:43 MANDATE. PREVAILING WAGES ARE REQUIRED,
02:17:44 PERIOD, FOR THE
02:17:46 CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. CONTRACTORS
02:17:47 HAVE TO PARTICIPATE
02:17:48 IN STATE APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS AND THE WORKERS ARE
02:17:50 ENTITLED TO HEALTH CARE.
02:17:56 WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF
02:17:57 THIS, BUT PERHAPS WE WILL BE SEEING
02:17:59 SOME MORE OF THIS SINCE WE HAVE
02:18:00 SO MANY HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN SANTA CLARA.
02:18:08 S LAST
02:18:10 CHAPTER, BROWN AC. SO THERE IS A LAW THAT
02:18:11 MADE
02:18:12 A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE BROWN ACT
02:18:14 THIS YEAR. IT'S
02:18:16 SB 707. IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED ADDS THE
02:18:17 MOST EXTENSIVE MODERNIZATION OF
02:18:20 THE BROWN ACT IN YEARS. INTRODUCING SWEEPING CHANGES.
02:18:23 BUT RELAX.
02:18:28 MOST OF THOSE CHANGES DON'T APPLY TO THE PLANNING
02:18:29 COMMISSION.
02:18:32 SO WINNING.
02:18:38 IT ADDS A LOFT LEGALESE, BUT
02:18:40 PRIMARY FOCUSES ON CITY COUNCILS AND WEIRDLY
02:18:41 ENOUGH ADDS A BUNCH
02:18:44 OF LANGUAGE FOR SUBORDINATE BODIES THAT DON'T MAKE ANY FINAL
02:18:45 DECISIONS, WHICH IS NOT THE
02:18:47 PLANNING COMMISSION.
02:18:50 SO YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TO
02:18:51 WORRY ABOUT ON THIS. BUT THERE WERE A FEW CHANGES
02:18:53 THAT I PLY TO YOU.
02:18:56 MOSTLY EXTENDING SOME
02:18:59 EXISTING PROVISIONS. SO FIRST OF AULT,
02:19:02 EXTENDS THE AB 2449 PROCEDURE FOR
02:19:06 REMOTE PARTICIPATION. SO THIS IS
02:19:09 THE TELECONFERENCING PROVISIONS THAT AROSE
02:19:12 OUT OF COVID. IF YOU RECALL,
02:19:15 OUT OF THIS 2022
02:19:17 BILL, YOU ARE NOW ALLOWED TO TELE
02:19:18 COMMUTE TO
02:19:19 MEETINGS FOR EITHER JUST CAUSE OR FOR
02:19:21 EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES.
02:19:24 EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES MEANT YOU
02:19:27 HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY OR YOUR FAMILY HAD A MEDICAL
02:19:30 EMERGENCY. JUST CAUSE WAS
02:19:32 YOU HAVE A CONTAGIOUS ILLNESS, WHICH
02:19:36 TO ME SOUNDS JUST LIKE WHAT WE WERE
02:19:38 JUST SAYING. SO SOUNDS REDUNDANT.
02:19:41 OR YOU ARE TRAVELING ON OFFICIAL CITY
02:19:42 BUSINESS OR HAVE
02:19:45 A NEED RELATED TO A PHYSICAL DISABILITY
02:19:46 OR A CHILDCARE OR CAREGIVING
02:19:48 NEED.
02:19:51 SO UNDER THIS BILL I THINK
02:19:54 THEY REALIZELED THEY WERE BEING REDUNDANT,
02:19:55 SO THERE IS ONE CATEGORY, JUST CAUSE.
02:19:57 THEY EXPANDED
02:20:00 TO SLIGHTLY, ADDED
02:20:01 MILITARY SERVICE OBLIGATIONS TO THE LIST OF JUSTIFICATIONS.
02:20:05 ALSO HE REMEMBER THIS WAS JUST JUAN
02:20:06 OF THE
02:20:09 TWO WAYS YOU COULDCOULD PARTICIPATE REMOTELY.
02:20:10 THE
02:20:12 OLD PROVISIONS IN THE BROWN ACT STILL
02:20:13 APPLY WHERE
02:20:15 YOU CAN LIST YOUR ADDRESS ON THE
02:20:18 AGENDA. YOU CAN ALLOW ANYBODY
02:20:21 TO ATTEND AT YOUR HOME AND PUT THE
02:20:23 AGENDA ON YOUR FRONT DOOR AND YOU
02:20:24 COULD STILL DO IT THAT
02:20:27 WAY. BUT
02:20:30 THIS EXTENDS THIS NEWER TALE
02:20:33 COMMUTING PROVISION.
02:20:34 >> OKAY. SO IS
02:20:35 THERE MORE SPECIFIC
02:20:36 LANGUAGE THAN JUST CAUSE?
02:20:39 DO THEY GIVE SPECIFIC EXAMPLES OF JUST CAUSE BECAUSE HERE IS
02:20:40 THE SITUATION.
02:20:41 I WANT TO ATTEND FROM HOME. WHY? JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO.
02:20:45 >> YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN AT
02:20:48 THE --YOU HAVE
02:20:51 TO GIVE A JUSTIFICATION FOR WHY YOU ARE DOING
02:20:54 IT.
02:20:55 >> BECAUSE I WANT TO. >> AT
02:20:57 THE
02:20:59 MEETING WHEN YOU ARE TELE COMMUTING.
02:21:00 >> RIGHT. >> SO IT SPELLS IT OUT.
02:21:01 LET ME TRY TO BE MORE PRECISE
02:21:03 ABOUT THAT.
02:21:07 >> SO YOU
02:21:08 KNOW, JUST IS JUSTIFIED CAUSE. NOT JUST CAUSE.
02:21:16 >> JUST CAUSE
02:21:17 MEANS, KMOOIK OR CAREGIVING NEED OF
02:21:19 A GRANDPARENT, CHILD, GOES ON,
02:21:20 REQUIRING YOU TO PARTICIPATE REMOTELY.
02:21:25 JUST CAUSE ALSO INCLUDES A
02:21:26 CONTAGIOUS ILLNESS THAT EVENTS A MEMBER
02:21:28 FROM ATTENDING IN
02:21:30 PERSON, NEED RELATED TO PHYSICAL AR
02:21:31 MENTAL
02:21:34 CONDITION, TRAVEL WHILE
02:21:35 ON OFFICIAL BUSINESS OF THE LEGISLATIVE
02:21:40 BODY,
02:21:41 IMMUNOCOMPROMISED CHILD, ET CETERA,
02:21:43 THAT REQUIRES THE MEMBER TO
02:21:46 PARTICIPATE REMOTELY. A PHYSICAL
02:21:48 OR FAMILY MEDICAL EMERGENCY. OR MILITARY SERVICE OBLIGATION
02:21:49 IT IS THAT RESULT
02:21:51 IN A MEMBER UNABLE TO ATTEND IN PERSON
02:21:54 BECAUSE THEY ARE SERVING UNDER OFFICIAL
02:21:57 WRITTEN ORDERS FOR ACT OF CUT DUTY.
02:21:58 >> I CAN BE IN A WAR
02:22:01 ZONE --
02:22:02 >> OH, JEEZ. >>
02:22:04 ZOOM IN, YOU MAY HEAR NOISE IN THE
02:22:07 BACKGROUND,
02:22:08 BUT I'M OKAY.
02:22:09 >> AND WE WILL THANK YOU FOR
02:22:10 YOUR SERVICE.
02:22:11 >> AND WHEN WE ARE REQUIRED FOR
02:22:12 MEDICAL OR MENTAL HEALTH, WHAT KIND OF PROOF
02:22:13 DO YOU NEED?
02:22:16 CAN I JUST SAY? I'M JUST ASKING. MENTAL HEALTH IS JUST CAUSE.
02:22:18 >> EXACTLY THE QUESTION I HAD. LIKE MENTAL CONDITION.
02:22:19 I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT.
02:22:22 >> RIGHT. YOU ARE NOT
02:22:25 REQUIRED TO REVEAL
02:22:28 ANY SPECIFICS ABOUT A MEDICAL
02:22:29 CONDITION, INCLUDING A PHYSICAL OR MENTAL DISABILITY.
02:22:33 YOU JUST HAVE TO DISCROWS THAT IT IS FOR MEDICAL REASONS.
02:22:40 >> AND WHEN YOU SAY PERSON IN THE
02:22:41 ROOM, YOU HAVE TO DO IT AFTER EVERY SINGLE ITEM?
02:22:46 >> THAT IS WHY I PUT
02:22:47 THAT BULLET ON THE SLIDE. I HADN'T GOTTEN THAT BULLET
02:22:49 BEFORE A HAND WENT UP.
02:22:54 UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE LEFT THAT
02:22:55 LANGUAGE IN THE LAW.
02:22:57 YOU STILL NEED TO DISCLOSE WHETHER OR NOT THERE
02:22:58 IS
02:23:01 A PERSON IN THE ROOM WHO IS 18 YEARS
02:23:02 OR OLDER, AND YOU HAVE TO DESCRIBE
02:23:03 YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PERSON IN THE ROOM.
02:23:07 >> EACH
02:23:09 TIME?
02:23:10 >> BUT YOU WILL BE HAPPY TO
02:23:11 KNOW I
02:23:13 DISCUSSED IT WITH A CITYCITY ATTORNEY AND
02:23:14 HE
02:23:15 HAS APPROVED A PROCEDURAL CHANGE.
02:23:16 FROM
02:23:19 NOW ON, WE ARE GOING TO ASK YOU AT THE
02:23:21 START OF THE MEETING WHETHER ANYONE'S PRESENT IN THE
02:23:22 ROOM AND
02:23:24 WHAT YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THEM IS
02:23:25 AND THEN WE
02:23:28 WILL ASK YOU TO REVEAL IF THAT CHANGES
02:23:30 AT ANY POINT DURING THE MEETING. HE SAID
02:23:31 THAT'S AN
02:23:34 ACCEPTABLE CHANGE THAT HE IS GOING
02:23:35 TO
02:23:36 IMPLEMENT AT THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL.
02:23:37 I HAVE BEEN WANTING TO TO THAT FOR A LONG TIME
02:23:38 BUT I COULDN'T BE INCONSISTENT FROM THE
02:23:40 COUNCIL POLICY.
02:23:43 SO WE WILL MAKE IT A LITTLE LESS LABORIOUS GOING FORWARD.
02:23:46 >> AND IS THERE DIRECTION ON THE TYPE
02:23:47 OF STATEMENT THAT'S MADE
02:23:48 BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN WE HAVE HAD, LIKE I
02:23:49 AM STILL ALONE IN THE ROOM.
02:23:50 IT SHOULD BE A LONELY CLAUSE IN THERE.
02:23:59 >> I'M SO ALONE. >> IS
02:24:02 THERE A VERSION OF
02:24:05 ACCEPTABLE DISCLOSURE LANGUAGE?
02:24:07 >> ASK CHATGPT. >> ALL IT SAYS IS THAT THE
02:24:11 PERSON
02:24:14 SHALL DISCLOSE WHETHER ANY
02:24:16 OTHER INDIVIDUALS 18 YEARS OF AGE ARE
02:24:17 OLDER ARE
02:24:20 PRESENT IN THE ROOM AND THE GENERAL NATURE
02:24:21 OF THE MEMBER'S RELATIONSHIP WITH ANY OF
02:24:22 THOSE INDIVIDUALS. THE GENERAL NATURE OF
02:24:23 YOUR RELATIONSHIP.
02:24:26 I MEAN, LIKE, YEAH, YOU KNOW, WE STARTED
02:24:28 DATING RECENTLY. I AM NOT SURE WE'RE
02:24:29 REALLY
02:24:31 BOYFRIEND AND GIRLFRIEND YET, BUT MAYBE IN
02:24:32 ANOTHER FEW
02:24:33 DATES -- I MEAN --
02:24:34 >> OUT OF CONTROL.
02:24:38 A.
02:24:39 >> MORE LIKE BEING IN THE HOLDING
02:24:40 CELL.
02:24:41 THE SHERIFF IS HERE AND HE IS OVER 18, BUT IT'S OKAY.
02:24:47 SHOULD WE
02:24:50 GO ON.
02:24:51 >> WE ARE ALMOST DONE.
02:24:53 SB 707 SHE ELIMINATES THE
02:24:55 SUNSET ON SOCIAL MEDIA RULES. NONE
02:24:58 OF THIS HAS CHANGELED. NOW IT'S PERTINENT.
02:25:02 IN 2020, AB 992 AUTHORIZED MEMBERS
02:25:03 TO COMMUNICATE OVER SOCIAL MEDIA.
02:25:05 IT
02:25:07 SAID IT WAS OKAY FOR YOU TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA
02:25:08 TO
02:25:10 PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC, TO
02:25:11 SOLICIT INFORMATION FOR THE
02:25:13 PUBLIC AND TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT
02:25:14 SOMETHING THAT IS
02:25:17 WITHIN YOUR SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION
02:25:18 ON FACEBOOK OR INSTAGRAM OR ANY
02:25:20 OF THE SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS.
02:25:23 BUT IT ALSO EXPRESSLY
02:25:25 PROHIBITED DIRECT RESPONSES TO OTHER
02:25:26 MEMBERS.
02:25:29 IF ONE OF YOU POSTS, YOU
02:25:30 CANNOT RESPOND TO WHAT THAT OTHER MEMBER SAYS.
02:25:35 YOU CANNOT COMMENT ON IT. YOU CANNOT
02:25:36 RE-TWEET. YOU CANNOT PUT ON EMOJI AND YOU
02:25:38 CANNOT LIKE.
02:25:43 NEVER LIKE SOMETHING THAT YOUR FELLOW
02:25:44 COMMISSIONERS POSTED.
02:25:45 ANYWAY, PREVIOUSLY THIS WAS SET TO EXPIRE ON JANUARY 1 OF THIS
02:25:47 YEAR.
02:25:53 SB 707 ELIMINATED THAT SUNSET DATE AND IT'S ON THE BOOKS
02:25:54 PERPETUALLY.
02:25:58 FINALLY, SB 707 MANDATES THE CITY MUST
02:25:59 PROVIDE A COPY
02:26:01 OF THE BROWN ACT TO ANY PERSON WHO IS
02:26:02 APPOINTED TO SERVE AS A MEMBER
02:26:03 OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF THE AGENCY.
02:26:05 SO THAT'S
02:26:07 WHY YOU GOT THIS WEIRD EMAIL LAST
02:26:08 WEEK THAT SAID THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
02:26:09 WOULD
02:26:10 LIKE YOU TO HAVE THIS GUIDE TO THE BROWN ACT.
02:26:11 I'M
02:26:13 SORRY ABOUT THE WORDING OF THAT. IT WAS NOT
02:26:14 A GUIDE. IT WAS JUST
02:26:17 THE BROWN AGENT. I HOPE NONE OF YOU
02:26:19 ACTUALLY SAT THERE AND TRIED TO READ
02:26:20 THE TEXT
02:26:22 OF THE BROWN ACT. ANYWAY. WE WILL
02:26:24 REMEMBER TO SEND YOU THE
02:26:25 BROWN ACT EVERY TIME IT'S UPDATED BECAUSE THAT IS NOW THE
02:26:27 LAW. ONE MORE SLIDE.
02:26:30 THE BILL
02:26:32 ALSO REAFFIRMS THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT
02:26:33 TO RECORD ANY PUBLIC MEETING PREVIOUSLY
02:26:36 THE BROWN ACT HAD LANGUAGE
02:26:38 SAYING YOU COULD RECORD WITH AN AUDIO
02:26:39 OR
02:26:40 VIDEO RECORDER OR WITH A STILL OR MOTION PICTURE CAMERA.
02:26:45 NOW
02:26:47 THEY GET RID OF THE UP REFERENCES TO THE TYPE OF
02:26:50 RECORD DEVICES. MOST RECORDING DEVICES
02:26:51 NOW
02:26:54 MAY NOT QUALIFY AS THE
02:26:56 950s DEFINITION OF MOTION PICTURE
02:26:58 CAMERA. IT STRENGTHENS THE CHAIR'S
02:26:59 AUTHORITY TO REMOVE DISRUPTIVE PERSONS.
02:27:03 WE DON'T SEE
02:27:04 IT THAT OFTEN AT PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT
02:27:05 SOMETIMES SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.
02:27:09 AND WITH THE ADVENT
02:27:11 OF ZOOM BOMBING, THIS BILL AUTHORIZES
02:27:12 THE CHAIR
02:27:13 TO DISCONNECT A DISRUPTIVE REMOTE PARTICIPANT.
02:27:17 ONE OF YOU IS GOING TO RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY, WHAT'S A
02:27:18 DISRUPTION?
02:27:21 GOOD QUESTION.
02:27:22 DISRUPTION MEANS ENGAGING BEHAVIOR
02:27:24 DURING A MEETING
02:27:27 THAT ACTIVELY DISRUPTS,
02:27:30 SINGULAR, DISTURBS, IMPEDES, OR
02:27:33 RENDERS INFIELDABLE THE ORDERLY CONDUCT
02:27:36 OF MEETING AND INCLUDES A FAILURE TO
02:27:37 COMPLY WITH
02:27:39 THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY
02:27:42 OR ENGAGING IN ANY BEHAVIOR
02:27:45 THAT CONSTITUTES USE OF FORCE
02:27:48 OR A TRUE THREAT OF FORCE.
02:27:54 SO THE CHAIR
02:27:56 CAN REMOVE --ORDER SOMEONE TO LEAVE,
02:27:57 HAVE
02:28:00 THEM REMOVED OR DISCONNECT
02:28:03 THEM
02:28:04 FROM REMOTE CONNECTION. MUST PROVIDE
02:28:06 A BANK THEY DO THAT.
02:28:08 IF THERE IS A TRUE THREAT OF FORCE, NO WARNING IS
02:28:09 REQUIRED.
02:28:12 >> DO WE SO WISH WE HAD A MOMENT LIKE THAT IN THE PLANNING
02:28:13 COMMISSION?
02:28:15 >> YEAH.
02:28:20 >> WE ADISRUPTIVE MEMBERS, THAT INCLUDES THOSE ON THE PODIUM?
02:28:24 I'M TRYING TO CLARIFY.
02:28:31 >> OKAY. >> HOLD ON. I GET ONE MORE --
02:28:33 >> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
02:28:36 ABOUT THAT. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT HAPPEN.
02:28:40 >> I WOULD SAY IT MAYBE COMES
02:28:42 UNDER THE -- WHAT'S THE --WE ARE NOT
02:28:43 USING
02:28:44 ROBERT'S ROOMS OF ORDER ANYMORE.
02:28:45 >>
02:28:46 ROSENBERG'S.
02:28:47 >> YEAH, I
02:28:48 WOULD TAKE A GUESS, BECAUSE ROBERT'S
02:28:49 RULES OF ORDER
02:28:50 THIS THAT. I WOULD TAKE A GUESS THERE IS
02:28:52 SOMETHING THERE.
02:28:55 >> I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO
02:28:58 YOU ON THAT. THAT'S INTERESTING.
02:28:59 IS THERE SOMEONE IN MIND YOU'D LIKE
02:29:00 ME TO REMOVE?
02:29:01 >> NO. >> ARE YOU SURE?
02:29:02 >> YES.
02:29:04 >> YEAH. OKAY.
02:29:07 DON'T WANT
02:29:10 TO DWELL ON THE TIME
02:29:11 'HERE TECHNICALITY. IS THERE A -- IS IT SUFFICIENT
02:29:13 TO PUT A TEXT LABEL IN
02:29:16 YOUR VIDEO THAT SAYS I'M ALONE?
02:29:22 RATHER THAN STATE IT EVERY TIME?
02:29:31 >> COULD
02:29:34 YOU DO IT WITH LIKE A CAPTION
02:29:36 ON YOUR SCREEN OR SIGN INSTEAD OF
02:29:37 VERBALLY
02:29:40 SAYING IT OUT LOUD?
02:29:41 >> YES. >> I DOUBT
02:29:42 IT.
02:29:43 >> OKAY. >> BECAUSE PEOPLE MAY BE
02:29:44 LISTENING.
02:29:46 AND UNDER THIS FUNKY
02:29:49 NEW BROWN
02:29:52 ACT REVISIONS,
02:29:54 THEY, YOU KNOW, GIVE CITIES THE ABILITY
02:29:55 TO
02:29:58 DO SOME SORT OF TWO-WAY TELEPHONIC
02:29:59 COMMUNICATION AS WELL. IF SOMEBODY
02:30:01 IS PHONING IN
02:30:03 TO LISTEN, THEY MIGHT NOT HEAR YOU.
02:30:04 >> YOU'RE RIGHT.
02:30:05 IT'S PROBABLY AN ACCESSIBILITY ISSUE.
02:30:07 OKAY.
02:30:10 >> YOU GUYS REALLY DON'T MIKE MAKING
02:30:11 THAT
02:30:12 DISCLOSURE, DO YOU?
02:30:13 >> WE HAVE ONE
02:30:14 OF THOSE BUTTONS THAT
02:30:16 SAY, I'M ALONE.
02:30:17 >> I KNOW.
02:30:18 I'M CONSIDERING THERE IS OPTIMIZATION THAT YOU COULD USE
02:30:19 TO SATISFY THE RULE.
02:30:25 >> JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE
02:30:27 OF SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF THERE IS,
02:30:30 INAPPLICABLE, COUNCIL MEETINGS --
02:30:31 WELL,
02:30:33 AS YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
02:30:34 AND COUNCIL
02:30:36 CURRENTLY ALLOW TWO-WAY AUDIO/VISUAL PARTICIPATION
02:30:39 BY MEMBERS. PUBLIC. THIS WAS A VOLUNTARY
02:30:40 CHOICE OF THE CITY
02:30:41 TO ENCOURAGE GREATER PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
02:30:43 BUT A
02:30:45 LOT OF CITIES STOPPED THIS PRACTICE
02:30:46 IN THE WAKE
02:30:49 OF SOME DEEPLY OFFENSIVE ZOOM BOMBING.
02:30:51 IT'S KIND OF SAD, BUT A LOT OF CITIES
02:30:54 HAD TO CLOSE THAT DOOR BECAUSE THERE
02:30:55 WERE SO MANY ZOOM
02:30:57 BOMBING INCIDENTS. THERE WEREN'T AS
02:30:58 MANY IN SANTA CLARA AND WE NEVER CLOSED THAT
02:31:01 DOOR. NOW WE CAN'T.
02:31:04 FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, TWO-
02:31:06 WAY COMMUNICATIONS BECAME MANDATORY
02:31:07 JANUARY 1. THEY HAVE TO
02:31:09 ALLOW FOR REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY
02:31:10 MEMBERS OF THE
02:31:12 PUBLIC. THERE IS AS ALMOST SPECIFIC
02:31:13 LANGUAGE ON WHAT TO
02:31:15 DO IF SERVICE IS DISRUPTIVE. THEY HAVE TO
02:31:16 TRY REALLY HARD TO
02:31:18 RESTORE SERVICE FOR AN HOUR BEFORE THEY
02:31:19 RECON SLEEP THE
02:31:21 MEETING. THE CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE
02:31:22 TO
02:31:25 ADOPT A DISRUPTION POLICY BY ANGEL
02:31:26 WUNL.
02:31:28 IT WON'T APPLY TO YOU. THERE IS ALSO
02:31:29 NEW
02:31:30 RESTRICTIONS ON CALLING SPECIAL MEETINGS.
02:31:31 ONE OF THE THINGS YOU CAN'T CALL A
02:31:33 SPECIAL MEETING TO CAR SALARIES OR COMPENSATION FOR THE
02:31:34 LEGISLATIVE BODY.
02:31:36 BUT YOU GUYS AREN'T PAID. SO IT'S IRRELEVANT.
02:31:40 AND THEN
02:31:43 SEPARATELY NEW RULES
02:31:47 FOR SUBSIDIARY BODIES, MOSTLY
02:31:50 HOW TO CHOOSE
02:31:52 TO ENABLE TELE CONFERENCING. IT'S REALLY NOT RELEVANT.
02:31:53 AND WE MADE IT.
02:31:57 90 MINUTES. SORRY. A LITTLE LONGER THAN EXPECTED.
02:32:02 BUT --
02:32:03 >> FINAL QUESTION FOR YOU.
02:32:05 >> YES? >> THE BROWN ACT, YOU
02:32:06 SAID THAT WE COULDN'T INCLUDE COMMENTS OR
02:32:08 LIKES OF OTHER MEMBERS.
02:32:11 RIGHT?
02:32:12 >> I DIDN'T
02:32:13 QUITE HEAR YOU, SORRY.
02:32:14 >> ON THE BROWN ACT
02:32:17 YOU SAID IF YOU DO SOCIAL
02:32:18 MEDIA, YOU CAN'T LIKE OR INCLUDE COMMENTS FROM
02:32:20 OTHER PEOPLE.
02:32:21 >> YES.
02:32:22 >> WOULD THAT GO --BEING THE LITTLE HACKER I AM, I AM
02:32:23 THINKING I AM NOT GOING
02:32:26 TO INCLUDE
02:32:28 THEIR VIDEO, BUT I AM GOING TO SAY IF YOU WOULD LIKE
02:32:29 TO
02:32:30 SEE SO AND SO'S COMMENT, HERE IS THE LINK?
02:32:35 IS THAT START GETTING --WHICH
02:32:37 SIDE OF THE FENCE DOES THAT FALL ON?
02:32:38 >> I WOULDN'T DO IT.
02:32:39 I WOULDN'T DO IT.
02:32:40 >> I UNDERSTAND I WOULDN'T DO
02:32:41 IT. I WOULD LIKE TO -- I AM HOPING
02:32:44 THAT --
02:32:45 >> YOU ARE
02:32:46 NOT SUPPOSED TO REPOST.
02:32:47 >> I AM NOT
02:32:48 REPOSTING.
02:32:49 >> WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
02:32:50 OKAY, IT
02:32:53 IF I REPOST A TWEET. THAT'S ONE THING.
02:32:55 I AM MAKING HERE'S WHAT I THINK ON NEXT
02:32:56 DOOR
02:32:59 AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE
02:33:02 WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONER MEMBER
02:33:03 SO AND SO SAYS, CLICK ON THIS LINK AND YOU
02:33:05 CAN GO TO THEIR COMMENT.
02:33:08 THAT'S NOT
02:33:11 A REPOST. REPOST NORMALLY IS I'M
02:33:13 QUOTING --
02:33:14 >> IT'S ONLY ONE REMOVED.
02:33:15 I THINK YOU COULD BE PROSECUTED FOR THAT.
02:33:16 I THINK YOU SHOULD CONSULT A LAWYER BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
02:33:20 I THINK IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA.
02:33:23 >> I DON'T DISAGREE --
02:33:25 I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU. I AM THINKING PEOPLE ARE TRYING
02:33:26 TO, YOU
02:33:27 KNOW, ALWAYS SKIRT THE SYSTEM AND I
02:33:29 WANT TO
02:33:31 BE, YOU KNOW IERJS NOT TRYING TO BE
02:33:32 FUNNY.
02:33:33 >> THOSE ARE REAL
02:33:34 THINGS.
02:33:35 >> I CAN LOOK INTO THE DEFINITION OF REPOST AND SEE IF
02:33:36 THERE IS ANY
02:33:38 FURTHER
02:33:40 ELIMINATION ON WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
02:33:44 IT PROBABLY ISN'T. I THINK YOU SHOULD NOT DO THAT.
02:33:47 >>
02:33:50 DON'T DISAGREE. ETHICALLY AND MORALLY,
02:33:53 I AGREE BUT. AT THE SAME TIME, THERE MAY
02:33:54 BE
02:33:56 MEMBERS OF THE OTHER COMMITS --NOBODY ON THIS COMMISSION WOULD
02:33:59 DO THAT, RIGHT.
02:34:00 >> I'M JUST --I WOULD BE
02:34:01 CURIOUS PEOPLE LIKE TO SKIRT THE
02:34:02 SYSTEM AT TIMES.
02:34:03 >> UNDERSTOOD.
02:34:04 >> THANK YOU. >> VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.
02:34:05 >> THANK YOU.
02:34:08 >> THANK YOU SO. .
02:34:11 >> COULD WE GET A COPY OF THIS? >> OF COURSE.
02:34:12 >> THANK YOU. >> SORRY.
02:34:14 ONE MORE QUESTION. YOU MENTIONED THAT
02:34:17 IT APPLIES MOSTLY TO THE COUNCIL
02:34:19 AND SOME SUBSIDIARY NON-DECISION-MAKING
02:34:20 BODIES.
02:34:29 HISTORIC LANDMARKS COMMISSION --COMMISSION,
02:34:30 UTILITY
02:34:31 COMMISSION, I DON'T KNOW THE GAME -- WOULD
02:34:33 APPLY TO ALL OF THEM?
02:34:36 >> WE
02:34:38 WENT THROUGH THE LIST OF EVERY COMMISSION.
02:34:41 >> OKAY. >> THE CITY CLERK, THE CHIEF OF
02:34:43 THE CITY ATTORNEY, THEY COMPILED A
02:34:45 LIST
02:34:47 AND FIGURED OUT WHICH BODY FIT INTO WHICH BUCKET.
02:34:51 >> GOT IT.
02:34:54 AND WE ARE
02:34:55 ALSO PRIERD TO TAKE BROWN ACT CERTIFICATION, RIGHT?
02:34:57 REQUIRED TO DEMONSTRATE
02:34:59 EVERY TWO YEARS WE HAVE TRAINING OAR
02:35:00 ATTENDED A STRANGE
02:35:03 IN.
02:35:04 >> AB 1234 TRAINING,
02:35:05 WHICH INCLUDES THE BROWN ACT.
02:35:06 >> IS THIS
02:35:07 NOW SEND A COPY
02:35:08 OR GIVE A COPY TAKE CARE OF THAT?
02:35:09 ARE
02:35:11 WE STILL REQUIRED TO DO THAT? BROWN ACT
02:35:12 TRAINING.
02:35:13 >>
02:35:14 OH, YOU ARE STILL REQUIRED TO DO THAT.
02:35:15 >> OKAY. >> IT'S MUCH MORE
02:35:18 THAN JUST THE BROWN ACT.
02:35:19 IT'S LIKE, I MEAN, IT'S ETHICS, MORE BROADLY.
02:35:21 >> I SEE. >> THE CITY
02:35:24 ATTORNEY
02:35:26 DOES IT IN PERSON ONCE A YEAR. YOU
02:35:27 ARE
02:35:28 WELCOME TO COME TO THAT. IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND,
02:35:30 THERE IS FREE
02:35:32 ONLINE CLASSES YOU CAN ATTEND.
02:35:33 >> GOT IT.
02:35:36 >> SO I SUGGEST YOU ASK --[ INAUDIBLE ]
02:35:41 .
02:35:42 >> PERSONAL, PRIVATE, HIRE A PLAN CHECKER FIRST.
02:35:43 >> I'M BUSY.
02:35:45 >>
02:35:48 THE CHAIR IS ALWAYS HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER OTHER
02:35:50 PEOPLE'S TIME.
02:35:51 >> ALL RIGHT. GREAT
02:35:52 PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.
02:35:53 >> I HAVE
02:35:54 GOT TWO SMALL --
02:35:55 >> PLEASE.
02:35:56 >> EDUCATE QUESTIONS. ONE IS THERE
02:35:57 ANY PROVISION
02:35:59 IN THE BROWN ACT TO CENSOR DISRUPTIVE OR
02:36:00 OFFENSIVE
02:36:03 COMMENTS
02:36:06 AND MATERIAL IN REMOTE USERS? I'LL
02:36:09 GIVE YOU A REAL QUICK EXAMPLE. OUR HONORABLE
02:36:12 MAYOR REPEATEDLY
02:36:15 WAS ASKING
02:36:18 FOR MR. BEN DOVER TO COMMENT BECAUSE HE
02:36:20 HAD SUBMITTED HIS NAME, AND THAT IS A
02:36:21 WELL-
02:36:24 KNOWN --
02:36:27 >> STRAIGHT OUT OF -->> TRICK NAME.
02:36:30 SO IT FEELS LIKE WE ARE BEING
02:36:33 CORNERED INTO ALLOWING PRETTY
02:36:35 MUCH
02:36:36 OR WITHOUT
02:36:38 REDACTION. AND THAT FEELS LIKE IT'S A
02:36:39 HEYDAY FOR
02:36:42 DISRUPTIVE
02:36:45 PARTICIPANTS.
02:36:46 IS THERE ANY PROVISION FOR WORKING AROUND THOSE ISSUES?
02:36:54 >> YES, BUT THE HARD
02:36:57 PRT PART IS DRAWING THE LINE.
02:36:59 >> YEAH. >> SO I MEAN THE MAYOR IS
02:37:00 VERY
02:37:04 AT RUNNING THE MEETINGS
02:37:06 AND THE CITY ATTORNEY FOORZ JUMPS IN WHERE APPROPRIATE
02:37:10 WHILE
02:37:12 , YOU KNOW, NOT PUTTING TOO HEAVY A HAND ON IT.
02:37:22 SO IF IT WAS
02:37:23 PROFANITY, OBSCENITY, NOW KNOW, THERE IS NO
02:37:24 QUESTION THEY COULD SHUT THAT DOWN.
02:37:28 >> IT'S
02:37:29 JUST INSULTING AND DEMEANING.
02:37:30 >> CHILD
02:37:31 IRSHALL, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO
02:37:33 KNOW WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE.
02:37:34 >> RIGHT.
02:37:35 >> DOES
02:37:36 IT DRAW MORE ATTENTION TO IT BY ACKNOWLEDGING IT THAN
02:37:37 BY JUST LETTING IT HAPPEN?
02:37:40 I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE AN
02:37:43 8-YEAR-OLD'S, YOU TO
02:37:46 KNOW --
02:37:47 >> HIS FINAL
02:37:48 COMMENT WAS SNEAK' EMBARRASS IF YOU
02:37:49 GOT
02:37:52 EM. IT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE
02:37:54 OF DISRUPTING THE DIGNITY OF THE MEETINGS WITH JUVENILE ACTIVITY.
02:37:58 >> YEAH.
02:38:01 >> OKAY. THE SECOND ONE IS SOMETHING
02:38:03 THAT ACTUALLY INTERSECTS ME. IS THERE
02:38:06 A REQUIREMENT TO DISCLOSE ALTERNATE
02:38:07 IDENTITIES IN
02:38:09 SOCIAL MEDIA? BECAUSE I HAVE A STREAMER
02:38:10 PERSONA WHICH
02:38:12 I KEEP SEPARATE FROM MY PERSONAL POSTINGS AND
02:38:13 OTHER THINGS.
02:38:16 IT WOULD BE TRIVIAL
02:38:19 TO FOORZ POST, RECOMMEND,
02:38:21 COMMENT, DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE
02:38:24 AS THE ALTERNATE IDENTITY. IF WE ARE
02:38:25 DOING SO AS A
02:38:26 LEGAL --OR AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
02:38:28 CITY, SHOULD WE
02:38:31 HAVE THAT AS A
02:38:32 REQUIRED DISCLOSURE FOR ON-RECORD REVIEW?
02:38:40 >> SO YOU HAVE
02:38:42 AN ACCOUNT WHERE IT'S A PSEUDONYM.
02:38:43 >> YES. >>
02:38:46 IT'S NOT LIKE YOUR FACE.
02:38:47 >> NO. IT'S
02:38:49 AN IDENTITY YOU USE FOR ACTIVITIES
02:38:50 WHERE
02:38:52 YOU DON'T WANT TO DOX YOURSELF
02:38:55 AND BECOME DIRECTLY TIED TO THAT.
02:38:58 FOR THINGS LIKE STREAMING
02:39:01 AND SOCIAL MEDIA THAT YOU HAVE A
02:39:04 PERSONA, AN IDENTITY
02:39:06 COMPLETELY SEPARATE FROM YOUR PERSONAL
02:39:07 IDAHOTY THAT IS
02:39:09 KEEPING SOME DISTANCE SO PEOPLE AROUND
02:39:10 STALKING AND --
02:39:11 >> RIGHT, UNDERSTANDABLE.
02:39:18 SEARCH THAT A REQUIRED DISCLOSURE?
02:39:19 THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE A LOGICAL NEXT STEP.
02:39:22 >> TO WHOM? >> TO CITY THAT IS REVIEWING
02:39:23 YOUR
02:39:24 POSTINGS, TO THE CITY MANAGER, TO
02:39:27 THE CITY ATTORNEY, TO SOMEONE --IT'S
02:39:28 LIKE WE
02:39:30 DISCLOSE OUR FORM 700 INFORMATION.
02:39:31 WE DISCLOSE
02:39:34 A LOT OF SOMEWHAT PERSONAL FINANCIAL
02:39:36 AND OTHER INFORMATION. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT
02:39:37 THEY'VE --
02:39:40 >> NO ONE IS REVIEWING YOUR POSTINGS.
02:39:41 NO ONE BUT THE CITY HAS
02:39:44 THE
02:39:45 JOB OF REVIEWING THE P.O.W.INGS.
02:39:46 >> WHEN
02:39:47 WOULD IT COME UP THAT YOU HAVE LIKED SOMEBODY
02:39:50 OR YOU HAVE REPOSTED?
02:39:52 IF NOBODY IS REVIEWING IT, WHEN DOES THAT COME
02:39:53 UP?
02:39:54 >> IF YOU ARE POSTING IT ON SOCIAL
02:39:56 MEDIA, PRESUMABLY IT'S
02:39:59 SO THAT OTHER S WILL READ IT.
02:40:00 YOUR CONSTITUENTS WITH WILL READ IT, NOTICE
02:40:02 YOU LIKED IT, FILE A
02:40:04 BROWN ACT VIOLATION WITH THE CITY.
02:40:07 >> RIGHT. >> INFORM THE CITY YOU SLIGHTED
02:40:10 THE BROWN ACT AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A MESS TO
02:40:11 CLEAN UP,
02:40:13 GO THROUGH THE CURE PROCESS TO CURE
02:40:14 THE
02:40:16 VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT. YOU WILL
02:40:17 BE SORT OF PUBLICLY
02:40:18 SHAMED IN THIS PROCESS.
02:40:19 >> RIGHT.
02:40:23 IT'S VERY TOTALLY LOGICAL. I AM
02:40:26 NOT TRYING TO PAINT AN
02:40:27 OBSCURE SITUATION OF IF YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL AND
02:40:29 YOU
02:40:32 HAVE AN ALTERNATE ACCOUNT
02:40:33 NOT REPRESENTING YOU PERSONALLY AND
02:40:35 YOU POST,
02:40:36 LIKE, REFRESH, GENERATE ACTIVITY THAT
02:40:38 IS
02:40:39 SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR POSITION. THAT
02:40:41 INFORMATION WILL BE
02:40:43 COMPLETELY OBSCURED UNLESS THAT IS A REQUIRED DISCLOSURE, RIGHT?
02:40:50 >> IT'S MORE THAN JUST
02:40:52 CAN I POST AS A PSEUDONYM. IT'S MORE LIKE
02:40:53 CAN
02:40:56 I TRY TO INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF
02:40:57 GOVERNMENT DECISIONS WITHOUT DISCLOSING WHO I AM.
02:41:01 I DON'T KNOW.
02:41:02 >> THAT'S TRICKY ONE,
02:41:03 ISN'T IT?
02:41:04 >> TRICKY
02:41:05 ONE, YEAH.
02:41:06 >> HERE IS THE OTHER SIDE OF
02:41:07 THAT COIN.
02:41:08 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS QUITE A BIT.
02:41:11 I CAN GO AND TRY
02:41:14 TO POSE AS AN
02:41:17 OFFICIAL AND USE A PSEUDONYM THAT LOOKS
02:41:19 LIKE ERIC CRUTCHLOW, AND THEN YOU COME AFTER
02:41:20 ME, BROWN ACT VIOLATION.
02:41:23 I SAY, I DIDN'T DO THAT. SO I HOPE
02:41:25 THAT THE PROCEDURE THAT WE HAVE, IF SOMETHING
02:41:26 LIKE THAT COMES
02:41:28 UP, INCOURT RATES, OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE
02:41:29 TO AUTHENTICATE THIS IS, IN FACT,
02:41:32 WHO THEY SAY.
02:41:33 >> YES.
02:41:38 IF YOU VIOLATE THE
02:41:39 BROWN ACT DELIBERATELY, IT IS A CRIME.
02:41:41 SO IF
02:41:44 SOMEBODY
02:41:46 DOES SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT LOOK
02:41:47 LIKE YOU ARE COMMITTING A
02:41:50 CRIME, WE WOULD TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.
02:41:51 AT THE
02:41:53 VERY LEAST, WE WOULD BE CHECKING THE
02:41:55 IP ADDRESS TO SEE WHERE THE POST CAME
02:41:56 FROM IF YOU TELL US
02:41:59 IT WASN'T YOU --
02:42:00 >> NOT IDENTIFY A PERSON --
02:42:01 >> BUT IT MIGHT IDENTIFY THAT --IT DOESN'T COME FROM --
02:42:02 YOU
02:42:05 KNOW, CAME FROM NICK RAUG YEAH INSTEAD OF SANTA CLARA AND YOU
02:42:07 WERE IN SANTA CLARA ON THAT DAY. WE
02:42:08 WOULD --THERE WOULD
02:42:11 DEFINITELY BE AN INVESTIGATION IN THAT
02:42:13 CIRCUMSTANCE AND I AM SURE IT WOULD BE A CRIME FOR THE
02:42:14 PERSON TO IMPERSONATE YOU.
02:42:20 >> PLEASE DON'T ASSUME AN I PCR ADDRESS
02:42:23 WILL DEFINITIVELY IDENTIFY --
02:42:24 >> IT
02:42:25 WAS JUST AN EXAMPLE.
02:42:26 I AM NEAT AN I.T. GUY. THERE WOULD
02:42:27 BE AN INVESTIGATION. IT WOULD TAKE A LOT MORE
02:42:30 THAN
02:42:33 --I MEAN, IT WOULD BE HARD TO CONVICT
02:42:35 JUST ON THAT. NEVERTHELESS --
02:42:36 >> NO,
02:42:37 I UNDERSTAND.
02:42:39 AND I APPRECIATE WHAT
02:42:41 IS BEING TRIED TO BE DONE. IT'S LIKE
02:42:42 THE PRACTICALITY OF
02:42:44 SOME OF THOSE THINGS IS --
02:42:45 >> IT'S
02:42:46 STRETCHED.
02:42:47 >> IT'S STRETCHED, AND ALSO I THINK
02:42:48 PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE ALSO,
02:42:49 YOU KNOW, THAT WANT TO JUST DISRUPT AND
02:42:51 MAKE BUSY WORK.
02:42:54 >> YES.
02:42:57 >> HOPEFULLY, NONE OF THEM ARE WATCHING THIS
02:42:58 MEETING, TAKING NOTES.
02:42:59 >> THIS IS NOT -- THERE
02:43:00 IS NO SECRETS TO ANY OF THIS.
02:43:01 >> I KNOW.
02:43:02 I KNOW.
02:43:06 NO, THAT'S --
02:43:07 >> THANK YOU AGAIN. >> MY PLEASURE.
02:43:08 >> THIS HAS BEEN AWESOME.
02:43:09 >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
02:43:11 WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT. CAN I GO TO THE
02:43:12 NEXT ORDER
02:43:13 OF BUSINESS, THE REPORTS OF COMMISSION BOARD LIAISON AND
02:43:15 COMMITTEES.
02:43:18 THERE IS NO ACTION, RIGHT? OKAY.
02:43:21 ELIZABETH?
02:43:30 >> AS FAR AS ANNOUNCEMENTS, WE ARE NOT ON THE TRAVEL YET.
02:43:36 IN TERMS OF
02:43:38 A COUPLE THINGS, WE DID -- I DID FORWARD AN EMAIL TO
02:43:39 ALL OF YOU
02:43:42 ABOUT AN EVENT ON JANUARY 22
02:43:45 ABOUT THE SUPER BOWL FLAG
02:43:50 RAISING. AND NOW THEY ARE ASKING FOR AN
02:43:51 RSVP.
02:43:52 SO YOU WOULD ACCEPTED ME YOUR RSVP IF YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
02:43:54 OR NOT, IF YOU COULD DO THAT BY
02:43:55 FRIDAY. SO I'LL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
02:44:00 LESLEY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, ANNOUNCEMENTS?
02:44:03 >> NO.
02:44:06 >> OKAY. >> I DO
02:44:09 NOT .
02:44:10 >> SORRY, WHAT? [ INAUDIBLE ]
02:44:12 .
02:44:13 >> I'M HAPPY TO DO
02:44:14 THAT. DO YOU HAVE YOUR ANSWER NOW?
02:44:15 I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT.
02:44:20 OKAY. OFTENTIMES, WE DON'T GET THAT
02:44:21 ANSWER AT THE MEETING. GO AHEAD. [ INAUDIBLE ]
02:44:27 .
02:44:28 >> IT'S A REGULAR -->> YEAH,
02:44:30 NO, YOU CAN GIVE
02:44:32 THIS INFORMATION --
02:44:33 >> DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS?
02:44:34 >> THIS IS A --
02:44:36 >> WHY DON'T WE -- WE ARE NOT VOTING
02:44:37 ON ANYTHING.
02:44:38 >> THIS IS
02:44:39 NOT A BROWN ACT VIOLATION BY HAVING US SHOW
02:44:41 UP.
02:44:42 >> OH, SHOWING UP TO THE EVENT.
02:44:43 THIS SEEMS VERY LOUD.
02:44:51 >> THERE IS A
02:44:53 FLAG RAISING EVENT.
02:44:54 >> FOR THE SUPER BOWL, A
02:44:55 FLAG RAISING EVENT AND
02:44:57 ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE INVITED.
02:44:58 >> WHEN?
02:44:59 >> JANUARY IT 22nd. >> YOUR NEXT MEETING IS NOT
02:45:01 UNTIL FEBRUARY.
02:45:04 YOU JUST LEARNED OF THIS ITEM.
02:45:10 SO IF YOU WAIT UNTIL YOUR
02:45:11 NEXT MEETING TO TAKE ACTION, IT WILL
02:45:13 BE TOO LATE. SO YOU
02:45:16 CAN
02:45:18 MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE UP THIS ITEM THAT
02:45:19 WAS
02:45:22 NOT AGENDIZED GIVEN THE URGENCY OF
02:45:23 NEEDING TO MAKE A DECISION BEFORE THE
02:45:25 DATE OF THE EVENT.
02:45:28 >> ALL WE ARE DOING IS TAKING RSVPs.
02:45:29 IS THAT CONSIDERED AN ACTION?
02:45:30 >> NO.
02:45:31 JUST TAKE THE NAMES.
02:45:34 >> YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
02:45:36 SAYING.
02:45:37 >> OKAY. >> YEAH. >> WE ARE
02:45:38 ASKING IF ATTENDING
02:45:39 THIS --IF EVERYBODY ATTENDED, WOULD IT BE A VIOLATION OF THE
02:45:40 BROWN ACT.
02:45:42 >> AS LONG AS THEY DON'T DISCUSS BUSINESS.
02:45:46 >> YOU
02:45:48 CAN ATTEND CEREMONIAL EVENTS UNDER
02:45:52 THE BROWN ACT.
02:45:53 >> THANK YOU.
02:45:54 >> SO ANYBODY? SHOULD WE START DOWN HERE.
02:45:55 DO YOU WANT TO ATTEND?
02:45:57 >> SURE. >> WILL YOU BE ATTENDING THAT
02:45:58 EVENT, DO YOU KNOW? OKAY.
02:46:01 MARIO BOUZA.
02:46:02 >> YES.
02:46:04 >> YES.
02:46:10 >> THANK YOU. >> COMMISSIONER
02:46:11 SALEME, WILL YOU BE ATTENDING THAT EVENT?
02:46:13 >> 1:00? >> IN THE AFTERNOON.
02:46:16 OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANKS.
02:46:19 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]
02:46:25 .
02:46:26 >> YES, I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH
02:46:27 WHOEVER IS NOT HERE. ABSOLUTELY. WE GO
02:46:28 ON TO THE COMMISSIONER TRAVEL AND TRAINING REPORTS.
02:46:34 WE HAVE THIS ON THE
02:46:37 AGENDA TO DISCUSS THE
02:46:38 JOINT VENTURE SILICON VALLEY STATE
02:46:39 OF THE VALLEY CONFERENCE THAT IS TAKING
02:46:40 PLACE FEBRUARY 27th.
02:46:43 AT A PREVIOUS
02:46:45 MEETING, THE COMMISSIONERS, YOU ALL VOTED TO
02:46:46 BUY A TABLE OF TEN SEATS.
02:46:52 AND I DID BUY TEN TICKETS.
02:46:57 AND PRIYA, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING
02:46:58 TO SHARE?
02:46:59 >> YES. I'M SO SORRY. [ INAUDIBLE ]
02:47:10 THIS IS THE STATE OF THE
02:47:13 VALLEY ADDRESS HAS BEEN SUPER INFLUENTIAL
02:47:14 AND
02:47:16 IMPACTFUL FOR
02:47:18 GETTING A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE
02:47:20 VARIOUS INFLUENCES,
02:47:22 DEMOGRAPHICS, PROJECTS, PERMITS, HOUSING
02:47:25 DEMAND, EDUCATION, JUST THE WHOLE DWAM IT'S.
02:47:26 UNFORTUNATELY, I AM NOT IN THE COUNTRY AT THE TIME.
02:47:32 >> THAT'S OKAY. I MEAN,
02:47:35 THINGS HAPPEN. I THINK
02:47:36 OUR ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE HAVE TEN
02:47:38 TICKETS AT A COST
02:47:41 OF APPROXIMATELY, I THINK IT
02:47:44 WAS $107 EACH TICKET. WE CAN
02:47:45 CERTAINLY GET A REFUND FOR ANY TICKETS
02:47:47 THAT ARE NOT USED, BUT SOONER
02:47:50 THAN LATER. THERE IS A TED LINE --
02:47:51 >> IS THE STAFF NOT GOING. . IN THE
02:47:52 PAST --
02:47:53 >> THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION
02:47:54 BUDGET.
02:47:55 >> OKAY. >> SO WE NEED TO --
02:47:56 [ INAUDIBLE ]
02:48:02 .
02:48:03 >> OKAY.
02:48:04 SORRY IF WE DON'T HAVE TEN PEOPLE.
02:48:05 >> NO, NO, IT'S
02:48:08 OKAY. WE WANT THE TEN.
02:48:09 BE NEED TO DETERMINE WHO IS ATTENDING.
02:48:10 WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS AT THIS VERY MOMENT.
02:48:14 BUT
02:48:15 IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEEDS TO
02:48:17 DERMA THEY WANT
02:48:19 DO WITH ANY EXTRA TICKETS.
02:48:20 >> NUMBER
02:48:21 ONE,
02:48:22 IF IT'S --THERE ARE ONLY SEVEN PEOPLE,
02:48:25 WE DON'T NEED THREE OF THOSE TICKETS,
02:48:26 RIGHT?
02:48:27 >>
02:48:28 THE COMMISSION ASKED TO BUY A TABLE OF
02:48:29 TEN, WHICH IS WHAT I DID.
02:48:31 >> I IT COMES AS TABLE OF TEN. SEVEN
02:48:32 ATTENDING --
02:48:33 >> I
02:48:34 FOLLOWED YOUR DIRECTION. AGAIN WHAT
02:48:35 I'M SAYING IS WE CAN GET A
02:48:38 REFUND. IS SAYS THAT ON THE
02:48:39 WEBSITE. IT WILL BE A GOOD IDEA TO
02:48:41 FIGURE THIS OUT WITHIN NEXT
02:48:43 WEEK OR SO WHO IS GOING ATTEND AND WHO WILL
02:48:47 NOT BE ATTENDING.
02:48:48 >> DID YOU RESOLVE THE ISSUE
02:48:49 AROUND THE TABLE VERSE THE INDIVIDUAL TICKETS?
02:48:53 >> I --
02:48:54 WELL, WHAT HAPPENED IS TO BUY A TABLE
02:48:56 WAS $5,000.
02:48:58 YOU HAD TO BE A SPONSOR. I DID NOT DO
02:48:59 THAT.
02:49:00 >> RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> I BOUGHT TEN INDIVIDUAL
02:49:02 TICKETS.
02:49:03 OKAY? WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, $4,000 LESS.
02:49:11 >> GREAT IDEA. PLEASE APPLY A REFUND.
02:49:12 >> THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.
02:49:14 >> WHO
02:49:16 WANTS TO GO? ANYBODY WANTS TO GO?
02:49:17 >> I ALREADY RSVP'D, YES.
02:49:20 >> OKAY.
02:49:23 >>
02:49:25 WE SHOULD CHECK WITH BHATNAGAR.
02:49:26 >> NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.
02:49:29 >> SO YOU ARE A NO? OKAY.
02:49:32 COMMISSIONER BHATNAGAR IS A NO.
02:49:35 DO YOU
02:49:37 HAPPEN TO KNOW? YOU WERE A NO ALSO?
02:49:38 >> YEAH. >> SORRY. YOU DID TELL ME THAT.
02:49:42 YES.
02:49:47 >> YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF NANCY SAID YES OR NO?
02:49:50 >> SORRY? >> NANCY -->> NANCY HAS
02:49:53 NOT GOTTEN BACK TO ME. SORRY. COMMISSIONER
02:49:54 BOUZA, WHAT DID
02:49:55 YOU SAY? WOULD YOU BE ATTENDING?
02:49:56 >> [ INAUDIBLE ].
02:49:57 >> OKAY.
02:50:02 SO, SO FAR WE HAVE TWO, POSSIBLY THREE ATTENDING.
02:50:06 SO IS THE
02:50:08 DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD AND GET A REFUND FOR ANY TICKETS
02:50:10 THE COMMISSION WILL NOT BE USING?
02:50:12 OKAY.
02:50:14 >> TRANSFER TO SOME OF THE CITY IF YOU
02:50:15 CAN.
02:50:18 >> THEN IT COMES
02:50:19 --
02:50:20 >> WE CAN -->> NO, I'M SAYING --
02:50:21 >> WE CERTAINLY CAN. >>
02:50:23 THE BUDGET, SO YOU GO AHEAD AND SHARE WHAT IT
02:50:24 IS YOU WANT DONE WITH THE EXTRA TICKETS.
02:50:27 >> OKAY.
02:50:30 I'LL LET YOU FINANCIALLY RESOLVE
02:50:31 THAT.
02:50:32 >> SORRY? >> I WILL LET YOU FINANCIALLY
02:50:33 RESOLVE THAT.
02:50:35 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> AGAIN, WHOEVER IS GOING,
02:50:39 PLEASE
02:50:41 BRING BACK INFORMATION. I WILL DOWNLOAD
02:50:45 THE INDEX THAT IS
02:50:46 STILL A DOCUMENT THAT IS ACCESSIBLE,
02:50:47 THE INDEX IS SOMETHING THAT DETERMINES
02:50:51 ESPECIALLY FOR ME A LOT OF
02:50:52 THE INFORMATION, HOUSING, PERMIT,
02:50:54 DEMAND. PATENTS. TECHNOLOGY.
02:50:58 >> YEAH. >> GOOD FORUM TO BE AT. THANK YOU.
02:51:06 >> THEN WE HAVE THE BUDGET.
02:51:09 RIGHT
02:51:12 NOW, YOUR BUDGET IS AT A BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY
02:51:13 $15,700.
02:51:30 THAT'S IT ON THE
02:51:31 BUDGET. THANK YOU.
02:51:32 >> UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS.
02:51:36 >> YOUR
02:51:39 NEXT
02:51:41 MEETING ON FEBRUARY 11th. THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL
02:51:42 BE
02:51:45 PRESENTING --
02:51:46 >> BEFORE WE GO, COULD WE
02:51:47 GET --
02:51:48 SORRY, COULD WE GET A QUICK CONFIRMATION
02:51:51 ON THE PROJECT I'M SUPER
02:51:54 IMPRESSED, ANNOUNCED VERY PUBLICLY THE CAMPUS AND HOSPITAL
02:51:55 THAT IS COMING UP.
02:51:58 WHAT IS THE ROLE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION?
02:52:06 >> SO THAT PROJECT, THEY
02:52:07 HAVE SUBMITTED A PRELIMINARY REVIEW
02:52:09 THAT
02:52:12 WAS REVIEWED BY PLANNING
02:52:14 STAFF AND A COMMENT LETTER HAS BEEN PRESENTED
02:52:15 TO THEM.
02:52:18 SO WE'RE WAITING FOR THEM TO
02:52:20 SUBMIT THEIR FORMAL PROJECT APPLICATION.
02:52:21 IT HAS NOT
02:52:24 BEEN SUBMITTED YET. I BELIEVE
02:52:26 THAT WILL COME IN AS AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND A
02:52:27 USE PERMIT.
02:52:31 >> ZONE AND
02:52:33 GENERAL PLANNING.
02:52:34 >> AND A RE-ZONE
02:52:35 AND
02:52:36 PLAN AMENDMENT, CORRECT.
02:52:37 >> NOT PERMITTED --
02:52:38 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
02:52:39 IN THE ZONING --
02:52:40 >> IS IT ALSO SUBDIVISION --
02:52:41 >> LOTS
02:52:42 OF THINGS. NO, NOT A SUBDIVISION.
02:52:43 NO.
02:52:44 >> SO IT WILL COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION.
02:52:45 >> YEAH. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
02:52:46 THANK YOU.
02:52:54 >> AGENDA ITEMS. >> SO, YEAH. FEBRUARY 11th,
02:52:56 NEXT MEETING. THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL
02:52:58 BE HERE TO
02:53:00 GIVE YOU A STUDY SESSION ON THE PLANNING
02:53:01 COMMISSION'S ROLE
02:53:04 IN THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS
02:53:06 AND WE DO HAVE ANOTHER ITEM ON THE
02:53:07 AGENDA THAT IS
02:53:08 AN APPEAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
02:53:09 OF A ZONING CLEARANCE THAT WAS DENIED
02:53:10 BY PLANNING STAFF.
02:53:15 >> AND I HAVE TO BE ABSENT AT THAT
02:53:16 MEETING.
02:53:19 SO JEN BUYERS WILL BE HERE.
02:53:22 I'LL BE
02:53:23 ABSENT. JEN BUYERS WILL BE HERE. I WILL BE ABSENT.
02:53:31 >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA CITY
02:53:34 COUNCIL ACTIONS. SO SINCE YOUR LAST MEETING
02:53:36 IN NOVEMBER, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE
02:53:37 COUNCIL
02:53:38 MEETINGS THAT HAVE HAD SOME ITEMS THAT THE PLANNING
02:53:40 COMMISSION HAS HEARD.
02:53:46 1957 PRUNERIDGE, WHICH THE
02:53:49 CONVERSION OF ELECTRIC STOVETOPS
02:53:51 TO GAS STOVETOPS. THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED
02:53:52 APPROVAL OF
02:53:53 THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL. THE CITY COUNCIL DID APPROVE
02:53:55 THIS ITEM.
02:54:01 DECEMBER COUNCIL
02:54:03 MEETING THERE WERE TWO ITEMS. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT ON
02:54:04 THE CITY'S
02:54:06 OPEN SPACE ELEMENT TO BE CONSISTENT
02:54:07 WITH
02:54:10 SB 1425. PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED
02:54:11 APPROVAL OF
02:54:13 THIS ITEM TO THE COUNCIL. THE COUNCIL
02:54:15 DID APPROVE THIS ITEM UNANIMOUSLY.
02:54:16 ALSO
02:54:19 A TENTATIVE MAP FOR SIX
02:54:21 TOWNHOMES ON CHENEY STREET. PLANNING COMMISSION
02:54:22 RECOMMENDED
02:54:23 APPROVAL, COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS
02:54:25 ITEM.
02:54:28 AND THEN
02:54:31 FINALLY LAST NIGHT THE COUNCIL WAS
02:54:34 PRESENTED A STUDY SESSION ON
02:54:37 THE SANTA CLARA STATION AREA SPECIFIC PLAN WHERE
02:54:38 WE PRESENTED TO THEM THE PREFERRED PLAN WHICH WAS
02:54:39 PRESENTED TO ALL OF YOU IN OCTOBER.
02:54:43 THEY HAD A DISCUSSION ON
02:54:46 THAT. THEY DISCUSSED MANY ITEMS VERY
02:54:47 DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSED.
02:54:52 ARCHEOLOGICAL SENSITIVITY. THEY DID DISCUSS COSTCO TRAFFIC.
02:54:55 LET ME SEE. A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS.
02:54:58 IT WAS A VERY LATE, LATE, LATE, LATE NIGHT.
02:55:05 LET'S SEE.
02:55:08 FARMERS MARKETS, PARKING
02:55:11 . YEAH, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, WHICH
02:55:14 YOU GUYS ALSO TALKED ABOUT.
02:55:15 MAKING SURE THAT WE SPOKE TO SAN JOSE ABOUT THE PLAN.
02:55:20 >> OPEN SPACE.
02:55:23 >> YEAH.
02:55:26 AND THAT MAYBE
02:55:28 THE NUMBER OF UNITS WE'RE PROPOSING ON
02:55:29 SUCH A LARGE NUMBER OF ACREAGE WASN'T
02:55:32 ENOUGH.
02:55:35 YEAH. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.
02:55:38 >> DO WE --WAS THERE ANY
02:55:39 DELIBERATION -- AND I DON'T RECOLLECT --
02:55:41 ON THE SUBARU PROJECT?
02:55:42 >> THAT IS COMING FEBRUARY 24th TO THE
02:55:44 CITY COUNCIL.
02:55:46 UPCOMING. SO I WILL REPORT BACK TO
02:55:47 YOU ON THAT ONE OR TUNE IN. OR BOTH.
02:55:50 >> IS
02:55:53 THAT IT?
02:55:54 >> THAT IS IT. >>
02:55:55 ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE TO ADJOURN.
02:55:56 >>
02:55:57 I GOT
02:55:58 ONE MORE -- ONE THING I'D HIKE TO ASK, IF WE COULD
02:55:59 CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE.
02:56:05 I AM PERSONALLY GETTING
02:56:07 VERY ANNOYED WITH THE SECURITY POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN
02:56:08 INSTALLED ON
02:56:11 OUR DEVICES. IT'S ASKING
02:56:12 ME TWICE A DAY NOW TO DETECIVE --
02:56:14 TO LOG IN TO
02:56:17 TWO DIFFERENT SERVICES
02:56:20 ON THE SAME DEVICE OVER THREE ZRIESS.
02:56:23 DAY I'M ASKED TO LOG IN WITH
02:56:26 MFA, AND IT
02:56:27 HAS THE P.I.N., FORCED P.I.N. RESET.
02:56:29 SO-SO FOR MY PERSONAL PHONE
02:56:32 AND THE PAD, EVERY THREE MONTHS.
02:56:35 IT'S VERY INVASIVE.
02:56:38 IS THERE ANY WAY POSSIBLE THAT WE
02:56:41 COULD SUGGEST THE CITY PROVIDE A SINGLE
02:56:43 COMMUNICATIONS DEVICE, MOBILE LIKE A PHONE,
02:56:44 THAT WE
02:56:47 CAN USE AS
02:56:50 OUR PRIMARY CITY CONTACT DEVICE AND
02:56:51 NOT HAVE IT SPREAD OUT OVER OUR PERSONAL
02:56:53 DEVICES? THAT'S A SUGGESTION.
02:56:56 WE CAN
02:56:59 INVESTIGATE BARKS WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL BUDGET AND
02:57:02 A VERY CHEAP PHONE WOULD BE PLENTY JUST
02:57:05 TO GET EMAIL AND TO SEND TEXTS AND TO BE CONNECTED.
02:57:06 I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THAT.
02:57:08 BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR COMMISSIONS.
02:57:15 >>
02:57:16 WOULD YOU LIKE TO --
02:57:17 >> I MOVE WE ADJOURN.
02:57:21 >> WAIT A MINUTE.
02:57:23 WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK TO I.T. DIRECTLY?
02:57:24 >> I HAVE.
02:57:26 AND --
02:57:27 >> YEAH, I THOUGHT WE ALREADY
02:57:28 HAD THIS
02:57:29 DISCUSSION.
02:57:30 >> YEAH, THERE IS NO ANSWER.
02:57:31 ANSWER
02:57:33 IS, SORRY, SO. SO I SUGGEST
02:57:36 THEY TRY GETTING LOGGED IN 12 TIMES A DAY
02:57:39 AND ENJOY THE PROCESS.
02:57:40 >> ALL
02:57:41 RIGHT. MR. CHAIR, A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
02:57:42 >> SECOND. >> OKAY. THANK YOU.
02:57:45 MEETING HAS ADJOURNED AT 8:58.